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IgorP2
07-20-2010, 03:54 PM
Explane me please, why I got -9.6$ EV in such situation? Is it right?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager (http://www.holdemmanager.net)
NL Holdem $250(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,855)
BB ($1,295)
UTG ($3,170)
UTG+1 ($3,130)
UTG+2 ($1,475)
CO ($2,485)
Hero ($1,590)

Dealt to Hero 9:diamond: 9:heart:

fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $2,460 (AI), Hero calls $1,565 (AI), fold, fold

FLOP ($3,680) 7:spade: 4:spade: Q:heart:

TURN ($3,680) 7:spade: 4:spade: Q:heart: 2:diamond:

RIVER ($3,680) 7:spade: 4:spade: Q:heart: 2:diamond: 5:heart:

CO shows 9:club: 9:spade:
(Pre 50%, Flop 52.3%, Turn 50.0%)

Hero shows 9:diamond: 9:heart:
(Pre 50%, Flop 47.7%, Turn 50.0%)

CO wins $1,840
Hero wins $1,840




ICM

Payouts
1 $40.00
2 $40.00
3 $40.00
4 $40.00
5 $40.00

Start EV End EV Diff Player
$24.18 $24.24 $0.06 groww
$31.76 $33.16 $1.39 stockoption
$25.36 $27.93 $2.57 IgorP2
$27.72 $26.77 ($0.95) tigertrap
$22.14 $18.80 ($3.33) Kerrydo
$34.48 $34.61 $0.13 octopusz
$34.36 $34.49 $0.13 XRMRX

SNG EV analysis

Board -

Prizes $40.00 $40.00 $40.00 $40.00 $40.00



EV Result Luck Hand Player

$24.40 $24.24 ($0.16) groww

$32.96 $33.16 $0.20 9c9s stockoption

$27.51 $27.93 $0.42 9d9h IgorP2

$26.92 $26.77 ($0.15) tigertrap

$18.95 $18.80 ($0.14) Kerrydo

$34.69 $34.61 ($0.08) octopusz

$34.57 $34.49 ($0.08) XRMRX



hand order 9c9s > 9d9h probability 2.1734%

0 stack 1450, icm ev $29.98

1 stack 4575, icm ev $38.95

2 stack 0, icm ev $0.00

3 stack 1705, icm ev $32.16

4 stack 1020, icm ev $24.03

5 stack 3145, icm ev $37.47

6 stack 3105, icm ev $37.40



hand order 9d9h > 9c9s probability 2.1734%

0 stack 1450, icm ev $25.80

1 stack 895, icm ev $18.26

2 stack 3680, icm ev $36.66

3 stack 1705, icm ev $28.26

4 stack 1020, icm ev $20.22

5 stack 3145, icm ev $35.46

6 stack 3105, icm ev $35.35



hand order 9c9s = 9d9h probability 95.6531%

0 stack 1450, icm ev $24.24

1 stack 2735, icm ev $33.16

2 stack 1840, icm ev $27.93

3 stack 1705, icm ev $26.77

4 stack 1020, icm ev $18.80

5 stack 3145, icm ev $34.61

6 stack 3105, icm ev $34.49



Time Level Cards Flop Turn River Chips bbs cEV Diff $EV Diff
7/20/2010 22:30 Trny: BB250 9d 9h C 7s 4s Qh (AI) 2d (AI) 5h (AI) 250 1 0 ($9.60)

brbrbr
07-21-2010, 08:58 AM
That 9.60 amount makes no sense. It should be 0.42, as in this line.

Expected Result Luck
$27.51 $27.93 $0.42 9d9h IgorP2

netsrak
07-21-2010, 11:09 AM
Please zip and mail the original handhistory files (you find them in the HM archive folder or in the handhistory folder of your poker client) together with a link to this thread and an explanation of the problem to support@holdemmanager.net. We will then try to reproduce the problem.

IgorP2
07-22-2010, 08:58 PM
I send letter, when could I get answer?

Beside that hand I send screenshot from HM with more then 30 such hands with big -EV result. That 30 hands was in that month. If need I can send all original handhistory files, where was such situation.

netsrak
07-23-2010, 04:04 AM
You should get an answer from support within one day.
I can't check this from here without your personal details so please edit and forward your original mail to support if you have further questions.

IgorP2
07-27-2010, 11:27 AM
I don't get any answer yet. I send letter once more and I'l copy it here.

All information in zip file (original HH and screenshot from holdemmanager, with similar situations).

netsrak
07-28-2010, 04:49 AM
I checked the email adress from your user profile:

We send you an answer about one hour ago.

IgorP2
07-28-2010, 07:25 AM
Thanks, send new letter.

Answer you question and send you new screen from HM (only problem hands). 33 hands (all hands is preflop allin, all of them such as AK vs AK, 99 vs 99 etc, all of them is splitpot). Summury $EVdif = -137.85$ for 33 such hands.