View Full Version : Problems purging hands

07-13-2010, 07:29 PM
Hey guys,
so I decided to purge some hands. I chose the one where you keep the stats. Deleted like 5,5 mil hands, but only freed up like 3-4 gb of space ( gotta be way more I think). I did the manual vacuum. Any thoughts? ( There are 2 databases to chose from. One is holdemmanager, one is postgres. I think the one I am using is holdemmanager, so I vacuumed that one)

07-13-2010, 09:07 PM
Hi, try rebooting your PC, sometime you need to reboot to fully reclaim the space

07-14-2010, 02:58 AM
uhm, already did that. Nada :-(
I remeber when importing all those hands, it took up a tremendous amount of space, like 25 GB or sth like that.

07-14-2010, 02:03 PM
Please check the subfolder pg_log of your holdemmanager installation path. You can delete all files in this folder.
To disable this logging permanently: Want to stop Postgre from creating those large log files, here's how - Holdem Manager Forums (http://www.holdemmanager.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8423)

If this gives no additional space you should defrag your harddisk (but stop the postgresql service before running this).

07-15-2010, 12:20 PM
pg_log is empty and already defragged using defraggler.
where did all my space go? weird

07-15-2010, 06:56 PM
Have a look in User/AppData/Local/temp, anything in there?

07-16-2010, 05:37 AM
232 MB. this is so weird. ill try vacuuming and defragging again later.

07-17-2010, 06:17 PM
hm still nothing. :-(

07-19-2010, 03:19 AM
What is the size of your postgresql data folder and how many hands do you have in your database?
FAQ - Hold'em Manager Poker Tracking Software :: Check Total Amount of Hands in Database (http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/115/Check+Total+Amount+of+Hands+in+Database+)

07-19-2010, 05:24 AM
30 GB and it says 8,9 mil hands. hm.

07-19-2010, 08:53 AM
There is no chance to compress your postgresql database more except deleting more hands.
Actually 30 GB is not much for 8.9 Mio hands.

07-19-2010, 10:55 AM
Thx for your reply.
Well I'd say that i prolly played sth like 1,5 mio hands. The rest must be imported hands (mined).
I tred deleting all datamined hands without losing the stats. Is is normal that it takes forever before it says sth like " there are xxxx hands to delete, would yu like to dlete them now?" and when i click yes, it only takes 1 second to complete.

07-20-2010, 03:22 AM
yes thats the normal procedure for the observed handhistories purge.
If you use options->settings->purge hands it works different.

07-20-2010, 03:57 AM
Okay. I am gonna try to purge all of them again (except the ones played by me). I imported about 890k hands yesterday, which took up sth like 4gb, so it should free up at least that. I am gonna run the that one query afterwards, to see if it actually deleted any hands.

Thx for ur help btw.

07-21-2010, 03:05 PM
okay it said 2,2mil hands for deletion. So I clicked yes. Then did the Vacuum, Analyse thing. Rebooted. Only freed up 3,3gb. that seems to be really not much for 2,2mil hands.

07-22-2010, 04:15 AM
The stats etc. stay in the database.

If you really want a smaller database you need to create a new one and reimport only the hands you like to have in this database. After completion you can delete the old database via pgadminIII.

But i think its easier to buy a bigger harddisk

07-28-2010, 05:46 AM
But do the stats really take up that much space?
I just ran that query again, and it says 9,8 million hands now. It seems that it doesnt delete any, when I actually delete them.
the data folder is now at 33gb

07-28-2010, 11:09 AM
Its not only the stats, its players, results and indexes to find the data and and ....
The database needs a lot of space.

In general i recommend to calculate with 10GB hdd space for 1 million hands.

07-28-2010, 07:04 PM
so if i wanna free up some space, I need to use the real purge right?

07-28-2010, 09:16 PM
This is the only way to do a 'real purge' & also you get tighter & faster DB:

If you really want a smaller database you need to create a new one and reimport only the hands you like to have in this database. After completion you can delete the old database via pgadminIII.

** You need to have at least 10% of your HDD free for it to work well without the extra space your defragger can't optimise your files
** Do you have system restore points you can delete ?
** Can you burn any video stuff to a DVD & delete it off the HDD ?
** Same for still image files etc
** Mined hands & mined stats older than 3 months are worthless usually