UWjoe
09-19-2012, 05:05 PM
you guys are finally going to man up and admit your business model isnt sustainable and make some changes? thank god, overdue!!
what i heard is that you were going to address the situation initially with hem 1 users resisting upgrade because hem 2 is a godforsaken mess by re-releasing a new "hem1BASIC" (is that the final name?) as a subscription based tracking software/hud combo service for those users interested solely in:
-stability as priority one
-no frills/ just cash game/tourney reports results cards hands sessions graphs vs player filters and no gay apps
-with ongoing multisite support
-most resource efficient and stable tracking software/hud combo no intention of integration of apps ever
-available for 3/6/12 month subscriptions at a cost of around $3/month per computer with no permanent purchase option
id just like to congratulate you on being able to admit your mistake with the the "buy this and it will be awesome forever, oh wait we arent getting anymore revenue, lets discontinue and re-release business model" you had started with and finally move forward correcting the arrangement in a manner that is going to be a win win for all parties involved rather than just perfecting hem 2 and discontinuing support and then hem 3 and... etc etc. each time abandoning support on a version in very good working order and letting its effectiveness deteriorate over time as sites/skins/networks evolve and no longer sync well with the formerly perfected version.
id also like to note that its pretty clever of you to leave the current hem 1 users who dont want to upgrade purely for cost reasons the current (increasingly buggy) "latest" and "final" version as their property forever (the same as things are now) so when you release a revamped stripped down and well supported subscription version they cant complain about "having purchased something and then later on being charged again for the same thing they previously paid for and shouldnt have to be forced to buy again because that violates common sense" at least no more than they already can due to hem 2 being released anyways and youve already made that mistake and committed to a repeat in 2 years so i think we can all manage to look the other way again
i mean i can sympathize with how fucked the users who think hem1BASIC is just as bad as hem 2 might feel, but $3 per month to finally have what they were initially trying to purchase anyways seems a very very equitable compromise to move us all out of a situation that will basically ammount to perpetual frustration and animosity on both the consumer and support side
but anyways, kudos on the news!!!!
i heard january at the latest, for hem 1 basic release?
is the timeframe accurate?
are there other benefits of the release of hem1BASIC i havent heard about yet?
i assume there are long term plans to have hem2 move to the subscription model at a higher cost to reflect all the gay unneccessary apps and shit that i assume is what causes it to function like a piece of at the moment but i assume this wont be for 12-24 months when you guys have it working as smoothly as hem 1 used to before you dropped support right?
im very excited and cant wait to ship for my first 6 months, thanks!
what i heard is that you were going to address the situation initially with hem 1 users resisting upgrade because hem 2 is a godforsaken mess by re-releasing a new "hem1BASIC" (is that the final name?) as a subscription based tracking software/hud combo service for those users interested solely in:
-stability as priority one
-no frills/ just cash game/tourney reports results cards hands sessions graphs vs player filters and no gay apps
-with ongoing multisite support
-most resource efficient and stable tracking software/hud combo no intention of integration of apps ever
-available for 3/6/12 month subscriptions at a cost of around $3/month per computer with no permanent purchase option
id just like to congratulate you on being able to admit your mistake with the the "buy this and it will be awesome forever, oh wait we arent getting anymore revenue, lets discontinue and re-release business model" you had started with and finally move forward correcting the arrangement in a manner that is going to be a win win for all parties involved rather than just perfecting hem 2 and discontinuing support and then hem 3 and... etc etc. each time abandoning support on a version in very good working order and letting its effectiveness deteriorate over time as sites/skins/networks evolve and no longer sync well with the formerly perfected version.
id also like to note that its pretty clever of you to leave the current hem 1 users who dont want to upgrade purely for cost reasons the current (increasingly buggy) "latest" and "final" version as their property forever (the same as things are now) so when you release a revamped stripped down and well supported subscription version they cant complain about "having purchased something and then later on being charged again for the same thing they previously paid for and shouldnt have to be forced to buy again because that violates common sense" at least no more than they already can due to hem 2 being released anyways and youve already made that mistake and committed to a repeat in 2 years so i think we can all manage to look the other way again
i mean i can sympathize with how fucked the users who think hem1BASIC is just as bad as hem 2 might feel, but $3 per month to finally have what they were initially trying to purchase anyways seems a very very equitable compromise to move us all out of a situation that will basically ammount to perpetual frustration and animosity on both the consumer and support side
but anyways, kudos on the news!!!!
i heard january at the latest, for hem 1 basic release?
is the timeframe accurate?
are there other benefits of the release of hem1BASIC i havent heard about yet?
i assume there are long term plans to have hem2 move to the subscription model at a higher cost to reflect all the gay unneccessary apps and shit that i assume is what causes it to function like a piece of at the moment but i assume this wont be for 12-24 months when you guys have it working as smoothly as hem 1 used to before you dropped support right?
im very excited and cant wait to ship for my first 6 months, thanks!