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glowica
07-02-2010, 07:46 AM
As far as 'fold to 3bet' stat is concerned, does it show only times when player A raises and someone else 3bets and A folds or all the situations when A even does not put any money ( doesnt raise) into the pot and fold to 3bet?

a.k.a.Also
07-02-2010, 02:45 PM
If player A only limps he cannot be 3bet, he has to raise for this to be possible.
BB = 1bet, Raise = 2bet, Reraise = 3bet

So if A doesn't raise(Limps) and folds to a raise, this would show under the limp fold stat.

glowica
07-05-2010, 07:27 AM
If player A only limps he cannot be 3bet, he has to raise for this to be possible.
BB = 1bet, Raise = 2bet, Reraise = 3bet

So if A doesn't raise(Limps) and folds to a raise, this would show under the limp fold stat.

it wasn't my point.
consider the situation preflop:
player A raises in UTG, player B reraises (3bets)in UTG+1, player C folds in BTN.

as far as player C is concerned, will this situation be shown in 'fold to 3bet' stat of player C?

a.k.a.Also
07-05-2010, 12:12 PM
You didn't mention Player C!! ;)

Tbh I thought about this scenario as well.
What needs to be done is to find some hands that fit this action, export them to a new db and play around with the hud.

I did start playing with this before I posted my cop out reply.

I'll try and take a look over the next few days, but by all means give this thread a bump again should I forget.

glowica
07-05-2010, 01:58 PM
You didn't mention Player C!! ;)

Tbh I thought about this scenario as well.
What needs to be done is to find some hands that fit this action, export them to a new db and play around with the hud.

I did start playing with this before I posted my cop out reply.

I'll try and take a look over the next few days, but by all means give this thread a bump again should I forget.



" all the situations when A even does not put any money ( doesnt raise) into the pot and fold to 3bet?"

I just understood these two situations the same, but you're right my description was a bit vague :P.

anyway, this is quite an important thing because i believe it changes a lot while trying to analyze players' huds.

When writing this post I've come up with something else though:
Does this '3bet' stat include only preflop actions? Or maybe some 3betting postflop as well?

Maybe some HEM representatives would like to speak about this and give us clear answers?

netsrak
07-05-2010, 02:51 PM
here are our general stat definitions: FAQ - Hold'em Manager Poker Tracking Software :: Stat Definitions (http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/95/Stat+Definitions)

and here are the formulars for most of the stats:
Formulas for every HM Stat! (Updated Nov 12, 2009) - Holdem Manager Forums (http://forums.holdemmanager.com/showthread.php?t=3595)
Questions regarding "3-bet vs." stats - Holdem Manager Forums (http://forums.holdemmanager.com/showthread.php?t=10810)