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remizz
06-24-2010, 08:04 PM
Hero ($9.77)

jelod posts (SB) $0.10
Cigarfingers posts (BB) $0.25

Dealt to zimer Js Jc
fold,
sebastianmal raises to $1
Hero raises to $3
fold, fold, fold, fold,
sebastianmal raises to $15
Pot odds: 42 %.

Has looked then hand in replayer - Pot odds: 34 % are correctly:
6.77/(0.1+0.25+9.77+9.77 =0.34
6.77 =(9.77-3) - my call
0.1+0.25+9.77+9.77 - the sum which I can win.

During an hand I have seen the following:
12/((0.1+0.25+15+15) *0.95) =0.42
12 =(15-3) - my call
(0.1+0.25+15+15) - the sum which I can win, *0.95 - with allowance for a rake
But in fact it is an error.
HM 1.11.02. PartyPoker. FreePHG v3.03.
Question: it is an error of the version, in general HM, or something at me not so?

netsrak
06-25-2010, 06:30 AM
It is not a known error.
Can you please post some screenshots and the handhistory?

We need to take a deeper look into it.

remizz
06-26-2010, 05:27 AM
It is not a known error.
Can you please post some screenshots and the handhistory?

We need to take a deeper look into it.

Ok.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager (http://www.holdemmanager.net)
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($34.55)
BB ($30.44)
UTG ($7.99)
UTG+1 ($33.74)
UTG+2 ($25.35)
MP1 ($9.65)
MP2 ($24.57)
CO ($45.57)
Hero ($8.75)

Dealt to Hero A:spade: K:spade:

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.12, fold, fold, CO calls $0.87

FLOP ($2.59) Q:club: 5:club: T:spade:

CO checks, Hero bets $1.49, CO raises to $2.98, Hero calls $1.49

TURN ($8.55) Q:club: 5:club: T:spade: T:diamond:

CO checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($8.55) Q:club: 5:club: T:spade: T:diamond: 2:diamond:

CO bets $41.47 (AI), Hero folds

CO wins $7.63

4.65/(8.55+4.65+4.65)=0.26 - correctly
41.47/((8.55+41.47+41.47)*0.95)=0.47 - error
*0.95 - consideration rake

Grabbed by Holdem Manager (http://www.holdemmanager.net)
NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
Hero ($8.75)
BB ($25)
UTG ($16.95)
UTG+1 ($25)
UTG+2 ($22.30)
MP1 ($52.01)
MP2 ($19.06)
CO ($54.33)
BTN ($25)

Dealt to Hero A:club: Q:club:

UTG raises to $1.50, fold, fold, fold, MP2 calls $1.50, fold, fold, Hero raises to $6, fold, UTG calls $4.50, MP2 calls $4.50

FLOP ($18.25) 4:spade: 6:heart: T:diamond:

Hero checks, UTG bets $10.95 (AI), MP2 folds, Hero calls $2.75 (AI)

TURN ($23.75) 4:spade: 6:heart: T:diamond: K:club:

RIVER ($23.75) 4:spade: 6:heart: T:diamond: K:club: 2:club:

UTG shows 7:diamond: A:diamond:
(Pre 30%, Flop 22.5%, Turn 6.8%)

Hero shows A:club: Q:club:
(Pre 70%, Flop 77.5%, Turn 93.2%)

Hero wins $22.07

2.75/(18.25+2.75+2.75)=0.12 - correctly
10.95/((18.25+10.95+10.95)*0.95)=0.29 - error
*0.95 - consideration rake

That is to take into account:
1) my call=bet opp, rather then my stack
2) all pot, rather then effective

morny
06-26-2010, 03:53 PM
Ok, thanks for posting all the information, should be quite helpful, can you please email the original hand to support@holdemmanager.net and also link to this thread as we need the original hand rather than the one that was exported as its a different format

remizz
06-29-2010, 05:25 AM
Ok, thanks for posting all the information, should be quite helpful, can you please email the original hand to support@holdemmanager.net and also link to this thread as we need the original hand rather than the one that was exported as its a different format

I send

Mike chops
06-30-2010, 02:15 PM
It looks right to me. The second hand you have $2.75 to call for an effective pot of $18.25 + $2.75 +$2.75 = $23.75... or 7.6:1

remizz
07-01-2010, 04:49 AM
It looks right to me. The second hand you have $2.75 to call for an effective pot of $18.25 + $2.75 +$2.75 = $23.75... or 7.6:1

In replayer http://forums.holdemmanager.com/attachments/hud-bugs/4337d1277541963-error-pot-odds-durig-play-aqrp.jpg - right.
During play http://forums.holdemmanager.com/attachments/hud-bugs/4336d1277541936-error-pot-odds-durig-play-aq.jpg - error.

In replayer http://forums.holdemmanager.com/attachments/hud-bugs/4335d1277541783-error-pot-odds-durig-play-akrp.jpg - right.
During play http://forums.holdemmanager.com/attachments/hud-bugs/4334d1277541759-error-pot-odds-durig-play-ak.jpg - error.

Mike chops
07-02-2010, 12:41 PM
The live tracking does not take account of the stack sizes so the odds will be wrong if somebody bets more than enough to put another player all-in.

remizz
07-02-2010, 04:55 PM
The live tracking does not take account of the stack sizes so the odds will be wrong if somebody bets more than enough to put another player all-in.

I have perfectly understood it. I want, that it has been corrected.

remizz
07-24-2010, 01:51 AM
This bug will be corrected?

Mike chops
07-24-2010, 08:16 PM
I don't know when we will get time to fix it. I'll take a look and if it is easy maybe next week...

remizz
09-02-2010, 04:53 PM
This bug will be corrected?

remizz
12-06-2010, 06:18 AM
Dear moderators. This post is already almost half a year. Please tell me whether this error is corrected, if so, when. Thank you for your reply.

Mike chops
12-06-2010, 10:17 AM
We only have stack sizes available for Party during live tracking, so we decided not to fix it.

remizz
12-07-2010, 07:42 AM
Absolutely incomprehensible response.
We only have stack sizes available
And what you need else?
stack sizes/(stack sizes+effective pot-rake)=pot odds


for Party during live tracking
Same error on Poker Stars. Fix it for Poker Stars.
Thank you for your reply.

remizz
12-08-2010, 08:11 AM
Dear moderators. Please answer to the previous post.

Mike chops
12-08-2010, 09:57 AM
We could make the fix for Party, but decided not to because the other sites would still have the problem.

remizz
12-09-2010, 05:53 AM
Dear moderators. From your vague answers did not understand. Please answer briefly and clearly the following questions:

1) Is this bug fixed for Party Poker? Possible answers: Yes / No.
1.1) If yes, when? Possible answers: Date.

2) Is this bug fixed for Poker Stars? Possible answers: Yes / No.
2.1) If yes, when? Possible answers: Date.

P.S. Priority poker room at the moment is Poker Stars. Although, I guess it must be only one correct formula, and it makes no difference where to get the data.

Thank you for your reply.

Mike chops
12-09-2010, 09:45 AM
No we will not be fixing this bug since we do not have stack sizes available to make the calculation. This isn't true for Party, but we don't feel they are important enough to make an exception for on their own.