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1trkmind
06-22-2010, 12:32 PM
I'm new to HEM. What stats are ideal? I get that VPIP will tell me how tight or loose a player is. and PFR will tell me passive or aggro. But, beyond that I'm able to translate all this data into useful info. The same goes for me, I look back at my sessions and see my stats, but can't determine my leaks based on those stats. Is there an "average stat" guideline?

This is whats coming back over the last 1,100 hands

VPIP 27.5/PFR 15.6/PF.VP RATIO 56.7/3BET 5.1/3BET CALL 42.9/4BET 2.2/SQUEEZE 4.7/AGG 2.8/FLOB CBET 60/

Thanks in advance for any info

_Loki_
06-22-2010, 04:25 PM
those stats are what...
full ring or 6max ?
nlhe ?
cash or tourney ?

more info needed basically

1trkmind
06-22-2010, 04:29 PM
cash
Nlhe
Mostly 6 max, some full

_Loki_
06-22-2010, 07:55 PM
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Regarding your stats - i would say the vpip & pfr are too different (vpip high in comparison) & yet you're not that aggro so I'm thinking you're entering a lot of hands (probably oop) that you're having to fold postflop too often

BUT...

a) I'm no wiz at other peoples stats - I rely on the notes I take on players a lot
b) I've seen players with extreme stats (seemingly losers stats) - who do very, very well long term. They can forget 'the rules' I guess because of superior postflop play & extraordinary skill at reading a table. However these are very rare individuals - & perhaps some of them are just lucky :)

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'Ideal' stats or 'average' stats is difficult. It varies greatly across the stakes & at any stake the difference between tables is astonishing to me still. There's a lot of adjustments to be made depending on the nature of the table. At 6max particularly when a new guy joins the table you instantly have to rethink everything that's been true for the last half hour.

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Regarding a HUD layout. With only 1k hands you are best just sticking to the basic 3,4 or 5 stats. If you are new to a HUD then too many stats will really confuse you. Stick to the basic ones until you're sure you know how they interact & then add a couple of stats every other month as/when you've got 'em nailed

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OK. Some good links to look at:

1 page
http://forums.holdemmanager.com/hud-general/26908-statistic-understanding.html
4 pages
http://forums.holdemmanager.com/hud-general/26196-best-hud-stats-use-4.html

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If you look in HM menu bar at 'Help' > 'Articles (8)'...
There's some good stuff in there - I would read them all & maybe especially 5) & 6)

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My minor 6max cash nlhe contributions... where I took the info from the above two threads (mainly patvs) & adjusted ranges to suit my style - you'll find a HUD config & an auto-rate to match - it's very basic because I don't have sufficient villain hands to make more stats worthwhile & also I find these are enough with notes (I don't multitable):
http://forums.holdemmanager.com/hud-general/32510-hud-question.html
http://forums.holdemmanager.com/share-your-auto-rate-configurations/27803-auto-rate-setup-6max-nlhe.html

You could take them, import & alter to suit you...

1trkmind
06-23-2010, 06:57 AM
Thanks for the direction sir. I can't read the link right now, but I will as soon as I have a minute. I'm definitely going to keep it simple to begin with. I appreciate it.