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Punky159
06-15-2010, 09:56 PM
I've been working on using autorate, read through all the instructions, set up 15 icons that I wanted to use and I can't get it to work properly.

The rock icon pops up with a vpip of 19 and none of the autorate icons are set to do that. Then I'm seeing green and red icons pop up, but none of the icons are set to use those. The dice icon pops up, but with the wrong stats, and I'm at a loss as to what is wrong.

I also checked to see if there were any conflicts with the numbers and while a few overlap, there is enough of a difference that they should be popping up.

Thanks in advance for any help

netsrak
06-16-2010, 03:55 AM
Please check our auto-rate FAQ: FAQ - Hold'em Manager Poker Tracking Software :: Auto Rate Introduction (http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/106/Auto+Rate+Introduction)

To look into your specific rules please post a screenshot of your definitions.

Punky159
06-16-2010, 09:07 AM
I've read the facts, but that doesn't explain why icons that aren't even being used are popping up, or why icons are popping up with information on them that isn't even rated... i.e. rock at 19 vpip.

I'll try to post a screenshot of the rules definition later today.

Punky159
06-16-2010, 04:15 PM
Here's the code I used... I have even checked the code one icon at a time, and double checked the stats.

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/Punky159/Poker/Rate1.jpg


http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss355/Punky159/Poker/rate2.jpg


thanks again for any help

Punky15

_Loki_
06-16-2010, 04:41 PM
That's a really really complicated set of rules :)
Have you tried enabling autorate in the replayer & seeing what happens ?
It's much easier to diagnose autorate in replayer i find

Hope this helps a little

Punky159
06-16-2010, 05:08 PM
Yes I have, but the think is that icons that aren't even rated are popping up, and some that are rated are popping up with the wrong stats.

_Loki_
06-16-2010, 05:28 PM
This is where my autorate rules live:
C:\Program Files\RVG Software\Holdem Manager\Config\AutoRate

I have 27 .txt files in there
26 of them are 692 bytes each & then there's the one I modified that's bigger than the others

I think your HM is using a different .txt file to the one you modified. Check the FAQ - have you set it up correctly to be used in the correct games?
If you think you have then take the modified file out & keep it somewhere else & HM will rebuild the default one - see if default one works

Attach your modified .txt here & I will try it if you like

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What do you mean by green & red icons popping up that you haven't put in the rules ? Do you mean a red square & a green square ?

Punky159
06-16-2010, 05:41 PM
yes on the colors and i'll try to figure out the other stuff

Punky159
06-16-2010, 05:46 PM
Found it under Autorate - FR Holdem Trny

Icon 20 IF VP$IP < 10 (>= 20 samples) AND PFR < 6 (>= 20 samples) AND WTSD < 30 (>= 20 samples)
Icon 12 IF VP$IP < 10 (>= 20 samples) AND PFR < 6 (>= 20 samples) AND WTSD >= 30 (>= 20 samples)
Icon 17 IF VP$IP Between 10 and 15 (>= 20 samples) AND PFR < 7 (>= 20 samples) AND 3-Bet Between 5 and 10 (>= 20 samples) AND Steal_Att Between 15 and 30 (>= 20 samples) AND Agg_Factor Between 1 and 3 (>= 20 samples) AND WTSD Between 20 and 50 (>= 20 samples) AND W$SD Between 40 and 59 (>= 20 samples)
Icon 10 IF VP$IP Between 16 and 19 (>= 20 samples) AND PFR Between 6 and 12 (>= 20 samples) AND 3-Bet Between 6 and 12 (>= 20 samples) AND Steal_Att Between 10 and 40 (>= 20 samples) AND Agg_Factor Between 1 and 4 (>= 20 samples) AND WTSD <= 40 (>= 20 samples) AND W$SD Between 40 and 59 (>= 20 samples)
Icon 11 IF VP$IP Between 20 and 25 (>= 20 samples) AND PFR Between 6 and 12 (>= 20 samples) AND 3-Bet Between 6 and 12 (>= 20 samples) AND Steal_Att Between 10 and 40 (>= 20 samples) AND Agg_Factor Between 1 and 4 (>= 20 samples) AND WTSD < 40 (>= 20 samples) AND W$SD Between 40 and 59 (>= 20 samples)
Icon 9 IF VP$IP Between 10 and 18 (>= 20 samples) AND PFR Between 7 and 11 (>= 20 samples) AND 3-Bet Between 2 and 8 (>= 20 samples) AND Steal_Att Between 20 and 35 (>= 20 samples) AND Agg_Factor Between 2 and 5 (>= 20 samples) AND WTSD Between 35 and 55 (>= 20 samples) AND W$SD >= 60 (>= 20 samples)
Icon 16 IF VP$IP Between 18 and 25 (>= 20 samples) AND PFR >= 10 (>= 20 samples) AND 3-Bet < 5 (>= 20 samples) AND Agg_Factor < 1.5 (>= 20 samples)
Icon 18 IF VP$IP Between 25 and 35 (>= 20 samples) AND PFR Between 10 and 40 (>= 20 samples) AND 3-Bet < 5 (>= 20 samples) AND Agg_Factor < 2 (>= 20 samples)
Icon 23 IF VP$IP Between 25 and 55 (>= 20 samples) AND PFR <= 6 (>= 20 samples) AND Agg_Factor < 1.5 (>= 20 samples) AND WTSD < 20 (>= 20 samples)
Icon 14 IF VP$IP Between 25 and 55 (>= 20 samples) AND PFR <= 6 (>= 20 samples) AND Agg_Factor <= 1.5 (>= 20 samples) AND WTSD Between 20 and 30 (>= 20 samples)
Icon 19 IF VP$IP Between 25 and 55 (>= 20 samples) AND PFR <= 6 (>= 20 samples) AND Agg_Factor <= 1.5 (>= 20 samples) AND WTSD > 30 (>= 20 samples)
Icon 15 IF VP$IP > 30 (>= 20 samples) AND PFR > 10 (>= 20 samples) AND 3-Bet Between 5 and 30 (>= 20 samples) AND Agg_Factor Between 1.5 and 4 (>= 20 samples)
Icon 8 IF Agg_Factor <= 1.5 (>= 20 samples) AND VP$IP > 40 (>= 20 samples)
Icon 22 IF VP$IP > 60 (>= 20 samples)
Icon 21 IF VP$IP >= 40 (>= 20 samples) AND PFR >= 15 (>= 20 samples) AND 3-Bet >= 10 (>= 20 samples) AND Agg_Factor >= 4 (>= 20 samples)

_Loki_
06-16-2010, 06:33 PM
I will see if your last post will cutnpaste into a .txt & I'll get back to you later - busy playing at the moment

Punky159
06-16-2010, 06:36 PM
Thanks a lot

_Loki_
06-17-2010, 03:52 AM
Worked fine in replayer for me:

http://s844.photobucket.com/albums/ab8/_L_O_K_I_/?action=view&current=autoratereplayer.png

** I reduced the sample sizes to zero for everything except vpip, because I was mostly getting no icons at all otherwise, because your C R A Z Y rules are difficult to find players for :)
** I changed the name of the file to make it work for 6max NLHE because that's what I tend to play

I tried a few different hands in replayer & got to see examples of nearly all the icons you chose
I didn't see the coloured squares you mention - they are not set up in the default HM autorate icons & they're not set up in your rules either. So i'm puzzled that you see them
There was a 'return' command missing in what you posted on the last rule, but I added one - I doubt if this matters
When I put your normal .txt file in autorate I made sure I had HM closed - I guess that might matter
The first time I did this HM didn't 'like' your file & it changed your file to default - I don't know why

_Loki_
06-17-2010, 03:55 AM
try again....

http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab8/_L_O_K_I_/autoratereplayer.png

Punky159
06-17-2010, 04:45 AM
I only play Sit and Go's, so I'm trying my best to design the rules for what I play... I'm thinking of dropping the icons down to ten and tweaking them to better identify player types. I wish autorate used LM and CO because those are big identifiers that I keep an eye out on to look for weak passive players. CO or LM too much with a low AF and high wtsd, and you have your classic calling station.

Thanks for your efforts, and I think I discovered one of the problems, for some reason when the table goes down to 6, the icons change for the 6 max, and when it's down to 2, the icons change to the HU rules... I don't know why and am pouring over the forums to learn.

Thanks again

_Loki_
06-17-2010, 08:34 AM
Hi Punky

1] When you have a good sng setup can you put it here please ?:
Share your Auto Rate Configurations - Holdem Manager Forums (http://forums.holdemmanager.com/share-your-auto-rate-configurations/)

2] What is CO & LM ? CO = Cut Off to me, but that's not what you're talking about

3] There is only one thing you can do about the 6max & HU problem with autorate...
Change the autorate rules for 6max & HU to match your tourney set up
The problem is that HM does not yet know the difference !!!!!!!!
Is is not your fault & there is nothing you can do except wait for HM to sort out this basic & VERY IMPORTANT PROBLEM (I am shouting so that HM will hear me)

Good luck & don't forget to post your rules

Punky159
06-17-2010, 01:02 PM
Hi Punky

1] When you have a good sng setup can you put it here please ?:
Share your Auto Rate Configurations - Holdem Manager Forums (http://forums.holdemmanager.com/share-your-auto-rate-configurations/)

2] What is CO & LM ? CO = Cut Off to me, but that's not what you're talking about

3] There is only one thing you can do about the 6max & HU problem with autorate...
Change the autorate rules for 6max & HU to match your tourney set up
The problem is that HM does not yet know the difference !!!!!!!!
Is is not your fault & there is nothing you can do except wait for HM to sort out this basic & VERY IMPORTANT PROBLEM (I am shouting so that HM will hear me)

Good luck & don't forget to post your rules

I will post the rules when I have good established ones, and the ranges will appear tighter because they are related to Sit and Go players.

CO and LM can be found as a part of your hud set up. LM = limp in, and CO = call open raise. for calling stations and bad players, you'll see a high percentage.

Okay on the 6max hu... Once I'm done with the full ring portion, I'll copy and paste to the others.... thanks for your help.