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8ggThjj5
05-30-2010, 11:31 PM
Hello,

I have read through the FAQs and the forums trying to solve this but I can't.

Problem: I'm playing on Absolute and I placed the HUDS where I want them. Save position and its fine. Then if I get moved or a new table opens HUDs get tossed around.

What I've tried: I have set my seat prefs. Even tried having them not set. I have tried it with and without these checked as well as combos of: WYSWIG, Lock Layout, Fix my stats position. I can manually position them each time and they stay but that gets old. I also have tried multiple times starting with just one table. I play tournaments only.

Been reading and fighting with this for a few days. Would love some feedback/someone to teamview and see what I'm doing wrong.

Thanks

Gacil
05-31-2010, 03:11 AM
Where you say fix stats position, are you referring to the Table manager - save positions?
Using this seems to be essential, and has been successful so far.

Is your hud single or multi panel?

Alterations to positions are, as far as I know, still saved in pospref4.txt and pospref2.txt in the config folder. I just experimented moving my replayer hud and this updates pospref2.txt, but the text doesn't make sense to me as it doesn't list the replayer hud I was moving.

As it may be a few days at the very least before anyone could get to schedule a tv session with you, it might be worth investigating these files, to see what is happening. Don't know what else to suggest as you seem to have checked all the other boxes (and unchecked them eh?)

I'll flag this matter anyways, and hopefully we'll get to the bottom of it.

8ggThjj5
05-31-2010, 04:13 AM
Thank you for your reply Gacil.

Some thoughts that I had that could be the problem is there is a ten seat setup for Absolute in the HEM seat prefs but my turnies are never over 9 seats on Absolute. When I tick Card Alignment to set things up it shows AA-TT cards and there is never a seat TT at my table. Seems a bit off. I did notice the stat boxes (I've been calling HUDs) are usually in correect order in the circle pattern at the table but not always on the right people. But then sometimes the stats boxes are stacked. Part of me feels like it could be caused also because I ended up with more than one table up before I had finished setting things up on the first one. Then its almost like its trying to save all the different spots on each table. Not sure that made any sense. But I don't know how to reset it to default settings so I can start over with one table. Just starting a new session with one table and setting it and saving does not resolve it though.

I'm using a single HUD. I just downloaded the software for the first time a few days ago. I was a Poker Tracker user before but got tired of the crashes and heard good reviews on HEM. By Fix My Stats Position i mean the tickbox named that in Player Prefs - Appearance tab. I don't really know how the pospref files work or what I'm looking at there. Its a bunch of random numbers. I'm guessing they are position preferences by the title but its greek to me. I noticed the pospref2.txt was blank but the 4 version looked like this:

**ABSOLUTE POKER SETTINGS**
0.652,0.125,0.822,0.360,0.825,0.739,0.571,0.761,0. 022,0.745,0.017,0.367,0.926,0.685,0.500,0.100,0.87 7,0.257,0.891,0.657,0.500,0.900,0.115,0.663,0.119, 0.259,
0.637,0.124,0.849,0.334,0.837,0.624,0.757,0.806,0. 284,0.768,0.034,0.748,0.007,0.627,0.007,0.330,0.42 8,0.052,0.629,0.831,0.637,0.124,0.885,0.241,0.927, 0.515,0.756,0.741,0.500,0.900,0.249,0.722,0.082,0. 519,0.127,0.241,0.363,0.124,
0.500,0.100,0.500,0.900,0.000,0.000,0.500,0.100,0. 500,0.900,
0.500,0.100,0.735,0.176,0.880,0.376,0.880,0.624,0. 735,0.824,0.500,0.900,0.265,0.824,0.120,0.624,0.12 0,0.376,0.265,0.176,0.000,0.100,0.500,0.100,0.735, 0.176,0.880,0.376,0.880,0.624,0.735,0.824,0.500,0. 900,0.265,0.824,0.120,0.624,0.120,0.376,0.265,0.17 6,
0.580,0.101,0.808,0.570,0.577,0.746,0.011,0.563,0. 000,0.000,0.504,0.207,0.936,0.451,0.493,0.748,0.10 8,0.458,
0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0. 000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.00 0,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000, 0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0.000,0. 000,
0.095,0.086,0.419,0.544,
0,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,
5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,
5,5,5,5,5,
5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,
5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,
5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,
0,5,

Gacil
05-31-2010, 04:39 AM
Yup, it's greek to me too. Probably a case of comparing before and after to see what (if anything) is being changed.

It seems the latest update now requires the hud to be fixed using this method as well :-
Have table manager open, and use File>Save positions.
Or right click TM icon in the task bar and click save positions.

8ggThjj5
05-31-2010, 04:54 AM
I have saved using the TM icon and also with table manager open. It saves it but as new tables open things are randomly placed. I think it is random based on my seat assignment. Even though I'm always at the bottom (seat 5) I think the other stat boxes are being arranged based on where I would be seating if I had not used seat prefs. But then sometimes the peoples stat boxes are stacked on each other which makes no sense. What does holding control or shift while moving the stat boxes do exactly? I have played with that as well.

mckrogh
05-31-2010, 04:59 AM
HUD DONT WORK ON CEREUS with version 1.11.01a for SNG and MTT

8ggThjj5
05-31-2010, 05:22 AM
HUDs work for me just fine but I cant get them to stay in the right positions when new tables pop up. They do work for me tho. All the stats color coded just like I setup. My only problem is the position thing which I believe is an issue between HEM site seat prefs and Absolute seat prefs. Just cant seem to line them up.

mckrogh
05-31-2010, 05:31 AM
HUDs work for me just fine but I cant get them to stay in the right positions when new tables pop up. They do work for me tho. All the stats color coded just like I setup. My only problem is the position thing which I believe is an issue between HEM site seat prefs and Absolute seat prefs. Just cant seem to line them up.

So its not working correct right?

8ggThjj5
05-31-2010, 05:56 AM
Yes, I just thought you were saying they do not work at all. So I was just clarifying it works just not correctly. The stats do show up. They are accurate. Just not staying in the right spots when a new table pops up. Some people have said they don't even show up. I took your statement to mean that.

8ggThjj5
05-31-2010, 05:57 AM
I'm glad to see its not just me having an issue. Although I did not find anyone else with my exact issue.

morny
05-31-2010, 02:44 PM
Hi, maybe we can do a teamviewer session to troubleshoot the problem so i can write up a bug report for the developers, please email me with a suitable time to do the session and also the timezone your in.

Thanks
Morny
support@holdemmanager.com

8ggThjj5
05-31-2010, 06:06 PM
Thanks Morny,

email has been sent

8ggThjj5
05-31-2010, 07:36 PM
I found a decent work around so far. I can click on the spade card icon at the top left of the table stats box and it gives me the choice to set it to 9 handed. Then I set the stat boxes where I want them and save. Anytime they are off on a new table I can hit the button to 9 handed now and they go into place. This really makes me think the solution is to force the turny stats default to be 9 handed on Cereus. I think it is defaulting as 10 handed which never exists in these turnies. This is a very usable solution for now. Obv I'd still like it to be correct without having to do this every time the table changes. But this puts them in their place in 2 seconds.

8ggThjj5
05-31-2010, 11:30 PM
I did notice when Force to top not ticked the stats dont show up but when it is ticked they show up but its annoying trying to take notes or review hands with the overlap.

Arizona Willie
06-01-2010, 02:52 PM
I spent hours getting my HUD fixed and all the stats in position. Now when I start playing at Carbon the first table is good. Any table that opens after that is scrambled but my stats are in the right place.

All other players stats can be found anywhere and everywhere.

I just finally gave up using the HUD on Carbon.

I tried fixing the positions over and over and over but they just don't stay.

Wierdly the first table I open is ok ... but after that everything is garbage.

8ggThjj5
06-01-2010, 04:11 PM
Willie, sounds like u have same problem as me. Try this. Make sure the layout is not locked in table prefs. Make sure to have "Show table Avgs" ticked. Then on the table on the table avgs display click on the little spade icon. This brings up a small menu that lets u chooose how many seats. Choose 9 if 9 seat table. Then arrange your stat boxes and save position. Now when any new tables pop up that are jacked. Open that menu again and click 9 seat and they will go where they are supposed to. Obv this is far from perfect but its fast and makes things usable. Also make sure Lock the Layout is unchecked or you wont be able to click the spade icon. I have WYSIWYG checked and also Force to top.

iiicharles
07-15-2010, 02:59 AM
Hey 8ggThjj5.

I'm having the same problem with Carbon. 6 max cash games. HUD stats are all over the place. I'm constantly moving them to the right places, only for them to be scattered again once a new player enters the game. I read your instructions but in the Table Preference window I don't see "Show Table Avgs" anywhere. I also don't know where to find the spade icon that you are talking about. I'd like to try this. Can you clarify?

netsrak
07-15-2010, 03:34 AM
Please check our FAQ: FAQ - Hold'em Manager Poker Tracking Software :: Setup Preferred Seating for Merge Network (http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/423/Setup+Preferred+Seating+for+Merge+Network)

The spade icon is a symbol on the Hud, another way to access this is right click on the table in the table manager window.

_Loki_
07-15-2010, 03:43 AM
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Read this:
FAQ - Hold'em Manager Poker Tracking Software :: Appearance - Tab 2 (http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/204/Appearance+-+Tab+2)
Also look at the section in the FAQ called "Show Table AVGS" - there a picture that shows the spade icon

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I think you can do the same thing in Table Manager, but I haven't tried it so I don't know which method is easier
FAQ - Hold'em Manager Poker Tracking Software :: Table Manager (http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/67/Table+Manager)

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iiicharles
07-19-2010, 12:11 AM
Thanks loki and netsrak for pointing me to those tutorials! Problem solved for 6max. But cash games. But the tutorials didn't mention 10 person tables, so I'm not sure which seat number I am in. I always sit in the bottom left seat. Anyone know which seat number that is? I'm sure that will solve the 10 person seating too.

iiicharles
07-19-2010, 12:20 AM
Scratch that! Found the seat number. Thanks again everyone!! :)