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B-Money
02-09-2010, 06:54 PM
http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/HmBetaUpdate.exe

Additions:

* Full FTP Rush HUD support
* Added option to include or filter out Rush vs Non-Rush hands in the HUD. (HUD Options/Additional HUD Filters.)


Rush Notes: The tables need to be sized appropriately. (600 - 750 range) If your Rush table is outside of that range a pop-up message in the HUD window will advise you.
Make sure your HUD doesn't overlap names on the table. We're using a screen scrape method for various reasons and the names must be visible so we can read them.
Most performance issues can be resolved by changing the table window size. See #1.
Make sure you're not using table mods - This can cause names to not be read correctly.


This isn't an official release, we just think the RUSH HUD is at a level where people can start using it. So far so good with our internal testing and that's why we've soft launched this here. If you have problems, please post in this thread and we'll address the problems. Eventually this thread will be locked, but please post feedback in the mean time.

*** UPDATE *** 2/14/2010
HmUpdateRush.exe is now updated to fix a couple past problems.


*** UPDATE *** 2/9/2010
The multi-monitor HMHUD.exe crash being reported is fixed, unfortunately it broke a few things too. We could pull this build or keep it out for you guys and we decided to keep it out so people can use the RUSH HUD. We're working on tidying up the problems the fix introduced and we don't expect the next update to be released for a day or so.

*** UPDATE *** 2/12/2010
The HMHUD.exe from post#119 (http://forums.holdemmanager.com/127379-post119.html) is now in the HMUpdateRush.exe file.

* Fixed Multi-Monitor crash
* Better name recognition
* Larger table sizes work better
* "WindText.cpp Line: 943" crash should be fixed too


*** If you are having problems:*** 2/14/2010

1) Make sure the FTP Lobby > Languages > Language Options are set to English.

2) The tables need to be sized appropriately. (600 - 750 range) If your Rush table is outside of that range a pop-up message in the HUD window will advise you.

3) Make sure your HUD doesn't overlap names on the table. We're using a screen scrape method for various reasons and the names must be visible so we can read them.

4) Most performance issues can be resolved by changing the table window size even by a small amount.See #1 and make sure you have the latest update installed http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/HmBetaUpdate.exe

5) Test the Hud out on a normal table first to verify its working

6) Dont use any Aero or other windows themes, change it to the default xp/vistawin7 theme

XP Windows XP: Use Windows XP in "Classic view" (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/personalize/classic.mspx)
Vista Change the desktop theme (http://www.microsoft.com/enable/training/windowsvista/theme.aspx)
Win7
Windows 7 Switching Desktop Themes in Windows 7: Changing the Windows Aero Theme With Two Easy Methods (http://pc-tutorials.suite101.com/article.cfm/switching_desktop_themes_in_windows_7)

7) Turn Cleartype Off
Vista How to Turn Off ClearType in Windows Vista (http://www.i4u.com/article7805.html)
Windows 7 Turn Off ClearType — MAXIMUMpcguides – Windows 7 tips, tricks, help, and how-to guides (http://maximumpcguides.com/windows-7/turn-off-cleartype/)

8) Turn Avatars off in Full Tilt go to Options and untick Avatars

9) Switch between Classic and Racetrack in FT by going to Options > Table View

10) If you are using graphics mods you need to restore the default FTP graphics.

FTP Graphics Restore (http://www.fozzypokermods.com/ftprestore.html)

You should be able to use the Selective Restore Package and install the BasePods Classic and BasePods RaceTrack so that HMHUD can properly read the names from the basepod. The area around the player name text must be the default colors of Black or White.

11) Reduce number of tables

12) Please give HoldemManager Administrator rights -


1) Go to C:\Program Files\RVG Software\Holdem Manager (Program Files (x86) if you have the 64bit version)
2) Rightclick the HoldemManager.exe and choose "Properties".
3) Go to the Compatibility Tab and select "Run this program as an Administrator".
4) Do the same for HMHud.exe and DBControlPanel.exe

13) For multitabling: start with one table, wait for the Hud to appear, then continue with opening the next table, wait....or open the tables before starting the auto-import.

14) Use a 32 Bit color resolution


GL,
-B

tundra
02-09-2010, 07:31 PM
I am just starting to test it out now.

The HUD triggers and seems to work when my table is on my primary monitor.

However, if the table is on my secondary monitor, the HUD insta-crashes.

fozzy71
02-09-2010, 08:01 PM
Thank you, we are working on a fix for that now.

tundra
02-09-2010, 08:25 PM
More issues I've encountered...

There are some letter recognition issues (it's very easy to notice after playing for a bit, as when there's a letter recognition error, it'll say you have 0 hands on the player). All of these happen some of the time, but not all of the time. Perhaps it depends on seat position?
In order of how often I've encountered them...
"g" is getting recognized as "0"
"y" is getting recognized as "u"
"9" is getting recognized as "g"
"p" is getting recognized as "D"
"_" is getting recognized as " "

I've also had a few crashes, usually predicated by the HUD either not showing up on one table or the popups not working on one table.

This is all 4-tabling (on my primary monitor for now) with windows sized near the larger end of the acceptable range.

Don't mean to be complaining too much, just trying to be helpful -- very impressed with the Rush HUD and its implementation so far.

Veteran68
02-09-2010, 08:37 PM
Thank you, we are working on a fix for that now.
Probably doesn't need to be said, but I hope you'll be supporting more than 2 monitors. I use 3 and often have tables up on every monitor at once. Well, not usually Rush, but still I don't want to be limited as to which monitor I can run a table/HUD on.

B-Money
02-09-2010, 09:04 PM
Probably doesn't need to be said, but I hope you'll be supporting more than 2 monitors. I use 3 and often have tables up on every monitor at once. Well, not usually Rush, but still I don't want to be limited as to which monitor I can run a table/HUD on.

Multi monitor crash is fixed. Unfortunately the fix broke a few things. Tidying up those loose ends now.

-B

B-Money
02-09-2010, 09:05 PM
More issues I've encountered...

There are some letter recognition issues (it's very easy to notice after playing for a bit, as when there's a letter recognition error, it'll say you have 0 hands on the player). All of these happen some of the time, but not all of the time. Perhaps it depends on seat position?
In order of how often I've encountered them...
"g" is getting recognized as "0"
"y" is getting recognized as "u"
"9" is getting recognized as "g"
"p" is getting recognized as "D"
"_" is getting recognized as " "

I've also had a few crashes, usually predicated by the HUD either not showing up on one table or the popups not working on one table.

This is all 4-tabling (on my primary monitor for now) with windows sized near the larger end of the acceptable range.

Don't mean to be complaining too much, just trying to be helpful -- very impressed with the Rush HUD and its implementation so far.

The version that is out worked pretty darn well for me when it came to name recognition. Since it is scraping the screen, try adjusting the table size even though you are in the right parameters.

guitarizt
02-09-2010, 09:14 PM
Just 1 tabled for a dozen hands and was surprised by how well the hud worked. Still this is a sad sad day. =[[[[

Rvg72
02-09-2010, 09:51 PM
Don't mean to be complaining too much, just trying to be helpful -- very impressed with the Rush HUD and its implementation so far.

The feedback is very much appreciated. OCR depends on a lot of different variables but I'm sure Mike will get it sorted. On my system (and most of the internal team) it worked almost perfectly but things like screen resolution, system fonts etc could impact it. Also make sure that your HM stats windows are not partially covering the player names since that would increase the failure rate

Roy

psl86
02-09-2010, 10:53 PM
Tested it for a couple of minutes and it works perfectly fine! Great speed on the stats too! I will do a 2 hours session in about an hour, so we'll see then :)

WILDB3AST
02-09-2010, 10:54 PM
thank you.

Crazyeyez
02-09-2010, 11:27 PM
Possibly a dumb question but are you confident that this complies with the Full Tilt TOS?
(I have no reason to believe it doesn't, but I'll admit I'm not very familiar with the TOS.)

ElevenGrover
02-09-2010, 11:42 PM
Seems to work fine but it is causing some mouse hiccups/pauses as I move around the screen. More annoying than anything

goodoldbm
02-10-2010, 02:13 AM
the hud is showing up for me occasionally on 2 of my 4 tables, but is never actually the person I am playing against. I can also not see the additonal stats when I drag over the Hud. I just talked to my friend and it worked perfectly on his computer. The problem on mine is the HUD cannot keep up with the tables, and sometimes just plain doesn't show up on other tables. I am running Windows 7. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Ajax
02-10-2010, 02:21 AM
I have not yet upgraded past 1.10.01, so I have not yet used the Rush HUD.

About the requirement for the table to be sized to 600 - 750 range. The HUD that I use contains so many stats that I need to maximize the window in order to have room for the HUD. I do not know how large 600 - 750 is, but if it is too small then I will not be able to use my HUD. Is it possible to have a second setting for the screen scrape that will work for a larger window so that we can maximize the window?

jurrr
02-10-2010, 03:00 AM
Seems to work alright so far. Thanks for putting it out and letting us play with it. I really did not want to reinstall PT3 just for rush.

I'd appreciate if I could make my tables bigger though.

AirmanSpecial
02-10-2010, 03:26 AM
Wow, this worked really well for me. I had the tables a little bit bigger than suggested. Four tables tiled on a 1920x1200 monitor (I don't know what that works out to). Didn't notice any errors at all over a 4k hand session. Extremely fast updating. I had been using the trial of PT3 and this completely blows it away. Totally worth the wait and I'm constantly glad I went with HEM.

netsrak
02-10-2010, 03:39 AM
the hud is showing up for me occasionally on 2 of my 4 tables, but is never actually the person I am playing against. I can also not see the additonal stats when I drag over the Hud. I just talked to my friend and it worked perfectly on his computer. The problem on mine is the HUD cannot keep up with the tables, and sometimes just plain doesn't show up on other tables. I am running Windows 7. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Try with different table sizes and without Aero or other Windows desktop themes

AndreasJ56
02-10-2010, 03:41 AM
Very nice,
it works at second monitor too;

rich.mann23
02-10-2010, 04:05 AM
Hi guys,

I reverted to that other program briefly when Rush started. My experience reminded me of why I moved to HM in the first place. Thanks for releasing a reliable program. I'm grinding ridiculously long hours right now so I didn't have time to read all the posts so sorry if I missed something. In the version of HM I have, the active players detail window does not seem to be working with Rush.

Will it be available in future versions?

Also, my HUD is not displaying information for all of the players in my database. Is that issue related to the character issue referenced earlier in this string or is something else wrong? The screen name of the most recent player was "kibrg". I have 400 hands in my database, but nothing was displayed.

Tanks

Thanks!!!

BlackSaphire
02-10-2010, 04:12 AM
Wow, this worked really well for me. I had the tables a little bit bigger than suggested. Four tables tiled on a 1920x1200 monitor (I don't know what that works out to). Didn't notice any errors at all over a 4k hand session. Extremely fast updating. I had been using the trial of PT3 and this completely blows it away. Totally worth the wait and I'm constantly glad I went with HEM.
Same resolution here and also tabling 4x (so the tables are a little bigger than recommended), but it crashes consistently after a few hands... :(

Maybe it's just me, but I'd gladly use AutoRate to set the FT Notes colour instead... much faster while multitabling (and wouldn't crash :D)

Maybe a dedicated "Rush AutoRate" so we don't have to modify the AR we're using at "normal" Cash tables? ;)

nafar
02-10-2010, 05:44 AM
Do I need to update to 1.10.02 before I apply this one? What if I apply this one first then update to 1.10.02, would I need to apply it again? Does it already include 1.10.02?

Sorry for the n00b questions but it's really not clear to me.

Llanlad
02-10-2010, 05:46 AM
Just imported a load of hands that i had played whilst using the PT3 HUD and for some reason im getting stats on the HUD showing players won or losses even though it says zero hands played ..

Not a huge deal ...but thought id mention it .

As for the HUD ...im have a dual monitor set up and my resolution is 1600 x 1200 and even though my tables are a little bigger than seems optimal ... ive had no problems whatsover on two tables ..

It also seems way faster and more stable than PT3's ...

lotez
02-10-2010, 06:37 AM
1) For better letters recognition turn ClearType OFF in Vista\Win7 !!!
2) Cant drag overlapped stats from name - hmhud crashes and restore old position after restart. Any issue to fix ???

fenhir
02-10-2010, 06:43 AM
1) For better letters recognition turn ClearType OFF in Vista\Win7 !!!
2) Cant drag overlapped stats from name - hmhud crashes and restore old position after restart. Any issue to fix ???

1.) Great... And Poker-Shortcuts need Cleartype on...

2.) I would like to have an alternative "offline-stat-setup", too like in the old days with PA-Hud...

RaZZcal
02-10-2010, 06:44 AM
At first when I tried it HM constantly misread the playernames (a lot of _ and .. were put into the names). I decided to turn the avatars off and now it works fine! (I juse the Racetrack)

Llanlad
02-10-2010, 07:15 AM
Just 4 tabled and had no HUD stats on 2 of those tables.

Stats took a bit too long to update and the pop up option would not work most of the time.

Apart from that .. my AA held up against KK and QQ ... so im happy ! :D

nafar
02-10-2010, 07:34 AM
OMG insanely fast, insanely accurate, insanely stable. Great job guys... HEM is still the nuts!

Llanlad
02-10-2010, 07:52 AM
Mehhh

Im tying to resize my tables and then save the 4 table layout on FTP ..

But for the second time FTP has just randomly decided to close when im playing 4 tables and when i log back in ... my table layout has gone and i have to re-do this all over again ...

Im now going to have to do it for a third time .

random_guy
02-10-2010, 08:01 AM
Seems to work allright in windows 7 after turning off aero, though occasionally it will have one guys name at the table wrong...


I play 1 maximized/fullscreen table at 1920x1200 normally, I hope whatever your doing can scale up to larger sized tables at some point...

Superbibi
02-10-2010, 08:24 AM
Works perfectly on Windows XP classic theme with table ninja FT. I tiled 4 tables on a 1280x1024 screen.

It's very fast and reliable, totally pwns PT3 once again. Congrats HEM boys :)

Ajax
02-10-2010, 08:30 AM
I play 1 maximized/fullscreen table at 1920x1200 normally, I hope whatever your doing can scale up to larger sized tables at some point...

Same for me... I use a 1920x1200 maximized screen. Does anyone know if it works when the screen is maximized?

Lenny-T
02-10-2010, 08:36 AM
This is great news! thanks for the update so far. I do have some issues though:

I tile 4 tables rush on 1920x1080. The bottom two tables don't get HUD stats, but the top two work fine. I use the software function 'Tile Tables' in FT to tile them. Is there any quick fix for this?

I play fixed limit sometimes, but it's not correctly detecting(probably not detecting at all and assuming NLHE), so my screen gets completely cluttered with the stats I use for 6-max NLHE. When I play normal LHE it works fine so the problem shouldn't be in my setup. Since we're scraping screen info anyway, perhaps we could scrape table name or Limit/No limit to fix this? Are there any other short-term fixes to this problem besides deleting my NLHE setup?

Thanks again, and keep up the good work!

asox
02-10-2010, 08:46 AM
I have a 30° Monitor and play normal at 2560*1600.
The table is much to litte with a size from 750
If i go to 1920*1200 or 1680*1050, i can not read the HUD-Stat good, because the font is then fuzzy
I hope you can find a solution for that.
Execpt then, the hud work great, but unfortunately, i can not use it now really with my Screen, thats to exhausting for my eyes

eddie
02-10-2010, 09:03 AM
Hello, my hands are not imported after the last update. I do not know why, it worked perfectly until then. I have Windows Vista on my laptop. The hud does not appear...

Edited: The handhistory file is at the folder where it should be, with the hands played, but HM does not import the hands.

Edited #2: The hud works correctly and hands are imported with non-rush poker.

Acid_Wave
02-10-2010, 09:30 AM
HUD Crash after closeing all Rush tables. (Win7 & WinXP)
And don't work with bold fonts on table. With standart fonts work fine.

Why you don't use memory scan for player names at Rush tables? PT3 work on any size of table.
I play 8-9 tables and some tables are imposed against each other at the size of a table 600-700.

Ajax
02-10-2010, 09:33 AM
does anyone know if the stats in the HUD will show only the Rush stats on the Rush tables, and the regular stats on the regular tables?

Edit: (okay... sorry for the clueless question:o)

Flag_Hippo
02-10-2010, 10:09 AM
does anyone know if the stats in the HUD will show only the Rush stats on the Rush tables, and the regular stats on the regular tables?

Read original post again.

inavacuum
02-10-2010, 11:28 AM
Fixing the sizing should obviously be a priority. Most of my displays use 1920x1200 and sizing the windows within the specified parameters is a little silly in that resolution. I'd say I get about 20% correct coverage, which is better than 0, so good job. One thing I notice happening is that HM won't pick up the names properly. For example, someone's name is JohnSmith. HM will display Joh____ and because there is no one in the DB called Joh____ it will just display 0 hands. When it actually loads the correct name, the correct stats are displayed.

Ajax
02-10-2010, 11:41 AM
I cannot use my HUD because I cannot have the screen maximized to 1920x1200. I have too many stats in the HUD for the window to be as small as the screen-scrape requires it to be. Will you provide this large-screen option sometime soon so that I, and the other poster above, can use the HUD in a maximized screen? Please?:)

Edit: Just thought of something else. The character recognition problems might not be as bad in a maximized screen. But this is just my guess... no technical knowlege to back it up.

RaZZcal
02-10-2010, 11:44 AM
.... One thing I notice happening is that HM won't pick up the names properly. For example, someone's name is JohnSmith. HM will display Joh____ and because there is no one in the DB called Joh____ it will just display 0 hands. When it actually loads the correct name, the correct stats are displayed.


I had the same problem at first. It was fixed by switching the avatars off (I use the racetrack layout).

rich.mann23
02-10-2010, 11:45 AM
The HUD crashed once or twice when I was getting off a tables.
I'm running on Windows Vista Home premium with two monitors. I was able to have the tables sized slightly larger (859) than recommended without any issues. However, I still had the problem of certain players information not pulling from the database. I have the players name displayed in the HUD on the tables to ensure that the right information is up and even though the HUD was displaying these players names, their stats did not appear.

asox
02-10-2010, 12:17 PM
I have now hard problems if the HUD start (normal Tables)
I play a Hand, and if the HUD start i become a errormessage:
Assertion failed!
Program:D:\xxxxxxxx \HMHUD.exe
File:.\WNDText.cpp
Line:943
Expression:0

All my Stat are on the wrong place
On the table, between the stat for the player stand oftener a line: osoft Sans Serif.
Several Stat-Lines for a Player are doubly

Nothing what i can do
Please Help !!
Before the Update, i had no problems with the HUD

ty

Arizona Willie
02-10-2010, 12:34 PM
Read some of this thread this morning so I downloaded the latest update and tried some RUSH.

Lost my ass real fast playing just .5/ .10

Using Windows 7 64 bit with a 24" monitor at 1680 X 1050 resolution the HUD did NOT work in RUSH no matter if I had the table full screen or reduced in size to less than half the screen.

morny
02-10-2010, 12:37 PM
Do I need to update to 1.10.02 before I apply this one? What if I apply this one first then update to 1.10.02, would I need to apply it again? Does it already include 1.10.02?

Sorry for the n00b questions but it's really not clear to me.

You can update straight to the rush version, no need to download 1.10.02

Llanlad
02-10-2010, 12:51 PM
Just a quick update ..

Ive now adjusted the size of the tables ..although not sure exactly what size they are, but i can easily fit 4 on a single monitor with a 1600 x 1200 resolution... im not getting the pop up warning about the table size .. so i pressume its small enough now .

I was having a few problems with missing HUD's on certain tables ... but as long as i start off with one table, start playing and then move onto a second, then third, and then fourth table with say a 20 - 30 second gap between opening each table then it works great for me ..

Have to say ...ive been using the PT3 version and this is way better ..

disko
02-10-2010, 12:55 PM
I have now hard problems if the HUD start (normal Tables)
I play a Hand, and if the HUD start i become a errormessage:
Assertion failed!
Program:D:\xxxxxxxx \HMHUD.exe
File:.\WNDText.cpp
Line:943
Expression:0

All my Stat are on the wrong place
On the table, between the stat for the player stand oftener a line: osoft Sans Serif.
Several Stat-Lines for a Player are doubly

Nothing what i can do
Please Help !!
Before the Update, i had no problems with the HUD

ty

i also have this problem

grandiozo
02-10-2010, 01:09 PM
I have now hard problems if the HUD start (normal Tables)
I play a Hand, and if the HUD start i become a errormessage:
Assertion failed!
Program:D:\xxxxxxxx \HMHUD.exe
File:.\WNDText.cpp
Line:943
Expression:0

All my Stat are on the wrong place
On the table, between the stat for the player stand oftener a line: osoft Sans Serif.
Several Stat-Lines for a Player are doubly

Nothing what i can do
Please Help !!
Before the Update, i had no problems with the HUD

ty

I also get this message when I open a table, and no stats at all.

fasteddie_21
02-10-2010, 01:30 PM
So far, testing this out, it's success is sporadic at best.

Using Vista x64, Aero, avatars off, single tabling 6M RUSH w/ 749 table size, I've found that there are hands that simply do not get updated (ie. the names/stats displayed are the same as the hand or two prior). Also, when HEM either can't read the name for some reason, it displays various versions of "_ooor.o_". Also, sometimes (seemingly at random), the HUD will be a seat off to the left (ie. seat 1's HUD will be over seat 6).


Trying to help out here fellas :)

inavacuum
02-10-2010, 01:35 PM
So far, testing this out, it's success is sporadic at best.

Using Vista x64, Aero, single tabling 6M RUSH w/ 749 table size, I've found that there are hands that simply do not get updated (ie. the names/stats displayed are the same as the hand or two prior). Also, when HEM either can't read the name for some reason, it displays various versions of "_ooor.o_". Also, sometimes (seemingly at random), the HUD will be a seat off to the left (ie. seat 1's HUD will be over seat 6).


Trying to help out here fellas :)

Turning avatars may help you with the random names, it worked for me (ty RaZZcal).

inavacuum
02-10-2010, 01:36 PM
Now that I have the weird names issues resolved, it's working fine with the exception that it only works for a maximum of 3 tables. If I add a 4th table it will only update 3 reliably (which 3 it chooses seems to be random).

rich.mann23
02-10-2010, 01:56 PM
Now that I have the weird names issues resolved, it's working fine with the exception that it only works for a maximum of 3 tables. If I add a 4th table it will only update 3 reliably (which 3 it chooses seems to be random).

I had this problem. I closed the FT client and moved/ deleted all the hand histories in my FT folder. I then restarted and added tables one by one. HM then recognized the tables and I was able to play 4 tables.

fasteddie_21
02-10-2010, 02:03 PM
Turning avatars may help you with the random names, it worked for me (ty RaZZcal).

This is w/ avatars off. I edited my post to represent that. Thanks!

evanmorgan
02-10-2010, 03:29 PM
I dont know whether my issue is similar to anyone elses.

I have only tried with 4 tables tiled, on windows 7. The HUD loads amazingly fast but only on the top left and bottom right tables. The top left has just the stats from those players. The bottom right table flicks between stats from itself and the bottom left/top right tables (as and when they load up).

Any ideas? I will try and mess around with it further a bit later.

Cheers

Evan

DocBru
02-10-2010, 03:58 PM
HUD crashes for me immediately when having a table on the second monitor. Main screen is laptop 1280x800 , second monitor 1900x1200

RaZZcal
02-10-2010, 04:14 PM
HUD crashes for me immediately when having a table on the second monitor. Main screen is laptop 1280x800 , second monitor 1900x1200

This was mentioned by the crew on the first page. They're working on it.

DocBru
02-10-2010, 04:27 PM
There is written that it is fixed with an upate..
Getting crahses when opening 3rd table on main screen also...

but ok it is a beta and works otherwise pretty good :)

B-Money
02-10-2010, 04:42 PM
Thanks for the feedback everyone.

We're working on solving some of these issues and will have another build out soon. The current Rush build is not a beta. It's a internal build so people who want a decent Rush solution have it.

We'll continue to make improvements, but we also have 99.9% of the rest of Holdem Manager to support too.

Thanks and keep the feedback coming!
-B

johnnyonedrink
02-10-2010, 05:01 PM
hi guys,
nice work, it looks better than the pt3 version, certainly the HUD is more responsive and generally easier to view.
GOOD WORK :)

quick question.
I have checked 'include hands from other limits' and 'mix FTP rush and non rush stats', in the additional HUD filters drop down. However, the stats of some regulars i play, came up in the HUD when playing rush as having zero hands. The right HUD was assigned to the player as i include the player name in my HUD, however, it didnt show the hands i have in my database.

For example, I looked up one player in the players tab, ran a report Jan 2010 to Feb 2010, and the report showed i have 252 hands on the guy. This same player in the rush HUD showed up as zero?

Am i missing something?! :)
Just dont want to have a huge database that is of no use!

good work again.

B-Money
02-10-2010, 05:09 PM
hi guys,
nice work, it looks better than the pt3 version, certainly the HUD is more responsive and generally easier to view.
GOOD WORK :)

quick question.
I have checked 'include hands from other limits' and 'mix FTP rush and non rush stats', in the additional HUD filters drop down. However, the stats of some regulars i play, came up in the HUD when playing rush as having zero hands. The right HUD was assigned to the player as i include the player name in my HUD, however, it didnt show the hands i have in my database.

For example, I looked up one player in the players tab, ran a report Jan 2010 to Feb 2010, and the report showed i have 252 hands on the guy. This same player in the rush HUD showed up as zero?

Am i missing something?! :)
Just dont want to have a huge database that is of no use!

good work again.

How many "RUSH" hands do you have on this guy? If these we're hands played before this build, they are counted as normal tables so the filtering would be off. You can purge hands from Jan 19th to now, then reimport them from your archive and all rush hands should be labeled as such inside of Holdem Manager. If you are purging, make sure you are not skipping the hero name too.

GL,
-B

goodoldbm
02-10-2010, 05:26 PM
Thanks for the tips!!! After getting my HUD working last night, I made 1300 dollars at 100NL last night and much more money will be rolling in! It's like takin candy from a baby lol. I was making great money before in rush poker, but now, WOW, its incredible. THANK YOU HEM.

Tips for those who have troubles with names not showing up-

For me it seemed all about table size. If I adjust the table even the tiniest bit, the hud may stop working, or several positions names may now show up as J000000 or something like that. So what I did is adjusted each table until every position had correct stats, and the HUD was correctly refreshing under each hand, and saved it as a custom layout, and my HUD worked perfectly for 6 hours!!!!!!!! I also disabled aero, and avatars, but not sure if this helped. Table sizing is definately the key, and saving the layout as a custom layout is a must because one small change and you lose half your stats.

Once again, thank you guys for the HUD, it's a goldmine!

johnnyonedrink
02-10-2010, 06:08 PM
How many "RUSH" hands do you have on this guy? If these we're hands played before this build, they are counted as normal tables so the filtering would be off. You can purge hands from Jan 19th to now, then reimport them from your archive and all rush hands should be labeled as such inside of Holdem Manager. If you are purging, make sure you are not skipping the hero name too.

GL,
-B

no, im actually an idiot, tables were too small, so scrape wasnt working properly :)
ive increased the size, 4 tabled happily, have to say, amazing performance.

once u fix the bug for multiscreens (think i read that earlier in this thread), im all sorted.

GREAT UPDATE. #1 product in the market.



oh, and re importing pre rush update hands, i actually just imported my processed files from PT3 (i was using those guys for all of 2 weeks) :)
all my hands appear to be in my HEM HUD now and correctly labelled.

eddie
02-10-2010, 06:46 PM
Hello, my hands are not imported after the last update. I do not know why, it worked perfectly until then. I have Windows Vista on my laptop. The hud does not appear...

Edited: The handhistory file is at the folder where it should be, with the hands played, but HM does not import the hands.

Edited #2: The hud works correctly and hands are imported with non-rush poker.

I have uninstalled and re-installed the latest version and the hmbeta update, in order to use it with rush. Hands are correctly imported now, but no Hud appears (and there isn't any pop-up regarding the size of the table)

Any idea?

Thanks!

milespro
02-10-2010, 08:25 PM
Is anyone else's HUD not showing hero stats in RUSH w/ this update? for some reason mine aren't showing.

Only change I made was this update for Rush, I made the adjustments in this thread for avatars and window size and the other player stats are pulling up fine :)

B-Money
02-10-2010, 09:03 PM
I have uninstalled and re-installed the latest version and the hmbeta update, in order to use it with rush. Hands are correctly imported now, but no Hud appears (and there isn't any pop-up regarding the size of the table)

Any idea?

Thanks!

Make sure you are using the build from the first post in this thread.



Is anyone else's HUD not showing hero stats in RUSH w/ this update? for some reason mine aren't showing.

Only change I made was this update for Rush, I made the adjustments in this thread for avatars and window size and the other player stats are pulling up fine :)

Hero stats are not shown. You don't have history with anybody and the way HM hero stats work you would just see 0 0 0 0 for everything since they are based on the table you're playing at. Table changes every hand.

fozzy71
02-10-2010, 09:44 PM
Thanks for the tips!!! After getting my HUD working last night, I made 1300 dollars at 100NL last night and much more money will be rolling in! It's like takin candy from a baby lol. I was making great money before in rush poker, but now, WOW, its incredible. THANK YOU HEM.

Tips for those who have troubles with names not showing up-

For me it seemed all about table size. If I adjust the table even the tiniest bit, the hud may stop working, or several positions names may now show up as J000000 or something like that. So what I did is adjusted each table until every position had correct stats, and the HUD was correctly refreshing under each hand, and saved it as a custom layout, and my HUD worked perfectly for 6 hours!!!!!!!! I also disabled aero, and avatars, but not sure if this helped. Table sizing is definately the key, and saving the layout as a custom layout is a must because one small change and you lose half your stats.

Once again, thank you guys for the HUD, it's a goldmine!

I just got done testing our new internal version at Default table size and MUCH LARGER than Default table size. It worked great as long as I didnt go full screen or too small.


I have uninstalled and re-installed the latest version and the hmbeta update, in order to use it with rush. Hands are correctly imported now, but no Hud appears (and there isn't any pop-up regarding the size of the table)

Any idea?

Thanks!

Is the Table Manager open and Auto Import going? If you still can't figure it out shoot me a PM or email and I can take a look on teamviewer. I will be online for the next few hours. Please email me at fozzy@holdemmanager.net, with a link to this thread, and your forum name, so we can schedule a Teamviewer session. Download the Teamviewer Quick Support Module - http://www.holdemmanager.net/teamviewer. Please let me know what time zone you are in and what time/days are convenient for you. I schedule support from 12:00 - 22:00 EDT, 7 days a week.

milespro
02-10-2010, 09:54 PM
Hero stats are not shown. You don't have history with anybody and the way HM hero stats work you would just see 0 0 0 0 for everything since they are based on the table you're playing at. Table changes every hand.


Prior to the rush update, it would show my stats on-going for the session despite the "changing" tables. So this was changed w/ the update?

Ajax
02-10-2010, 10:23 PM
Thank you to the development team for all the work you are putting in to get this HUD working.

I tried to play with a much smaller version of my HUD so that I could use the small windows as required, but there were some names misread at each table. Here are some of them:
"DR" shows as "1R" or ")R"
"bad" shows as "ad"
"z" at the end of a name becomes "z_"

I know that there are only a few people who want the 1920x1200 screen size support like I do, but if we start off with the max screen support, then would the screen reading be more accurate?

After we get the max screen support, then the more difficult smaller screen reading could be done. But as it is right now, everyone has problems with the name recognition. So why not get a max screen to work, and then work on shrinking it down?

diablo0000
02-10-2010, 10:58 PM
sorry if this has already been asked/answered but is there any way of tagging your old rush hands imported before HEM 'rush' tagged them so that i can have a completely seperate rush HH database??

thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me

tc

pokurz
02-10-2010, 11:04 PM
sorry if this has already been asked/answered but is there any way of tagging your old rush hands imported before HEM 'rush' tagged them so that i can have a completely seperate rush HH database??

thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me

tc

i would think there has to be a way, because i imported my hands when rush poker first came out and pt3 recognized them as Rush Poker hands.

B-Money
02-10-2010, 11:07 PM
sorry if this has already been asked/answered but is there any way of tagging your old rush hands imported before HEM 'rush' tagged them so that i can have a completely seperate rush HH database??

thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me

tc


i would think there has to be a way, because i imported my hands when rush poker first came out and pt3 recognized them as Rush Poker hands.

See this post.
http://forums.holdemmanager.com/126744-post60.html

jschell
02-10-2010, 11:51 PM
Are you guys working on a way to mark hands in rush?

I use that functionality from the last hands display quite a bit, but since that doesn't show up in the rush hud, I don't have a way to mark hands (that I know of).

Alex0r
02-11-2010, 12:40 AM
How many "RUSH" hands do you have on this guy? If these we're hands played before this build, they are counted as normal tables so the filtering would be off. You can purge hands from Jan 19th to now, then reimport them from your archive and all rush hands should be labeled as such inside of Holdem Manager. If you are purging, make sure you are not skipping the hero name too.

GL,
-B

i followed these instructions but the hands that i played today that were imported as $0.5/1 RUSH NL didn't re-import. and all the other rush hands i had payed previously imported as normal $0.5/1 NL hands.

Ajax
02-11-2010, 01:05 AM
I just got done testing our new internal version at Default table size and MUCH LARGER than Default table size. It worked great as long as I didnt go full screen or too small.

This sounds very good. Please try to get it all the way to 1980x1200 maximized screen!

Thanks for all the great work.:)

fozzy71
02-11-2010, 01:33 AM
i followed these instructions but the hands that i played today that were imported as $0.5/1 RUSH NL didn't re-import. and all the other rush hands i had payed previously imported as normal $0.5/1 NL hands.

Start a new DB

*Try creating a new UTF DB - FAQ - Hold'em Manager Poker Tracking Software :: Create / Delete Database (http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/75/Create+%7B47%7D+Delete+Database)
*Now import a small portion of your \HMArchive so you can see if the problem exists in the new DB - FAQ - Hold'em Manager Poker Tracking Software :: How to Import & Export Hands (http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/98/How+to+Import+%26+Export+Hands)
*If the new DB seems to work properly, you will want to import the rest of your archives to the new DB, export/import the hands from the old DB to the new DB, and export/import any player notes and tourney summaries - and then delete the old DB.
*Make sure you export/backup everything before deleting the old DB



This sounds very good. Please try to get it all the way to 1980x1200 maximized screen!

Thanks for all the great work.:)

1680x1050 does NOT work with the Rush HUD. I don't know if/when it ever will. My table was between 900 and 1,000 wide.

pog0
02-11-2010, 01:56 AM
Just wanted to pop in and say that the rush hud is amazing. Played rush for the first time for 30 minutes today, and the hud worked instantly and perfectly.

With this in place, table scraping should be simple to implement onto non-rush tables as a replacement for pre-fetch, no?

lotez
02-11-2010, 01:56 AM
1) For better letters recognition turn ClearType OFF in Vista\Win7 !!!
2) Cant drag overlapped stats from name - hmhud crashes and restore old position after restart. Any issue to fix ???

To fix" #2 turn on transparency background

Alex0r
02-11-2010, 02:00 AM
Start a new DB

*Try creating a new UTF DB - FAQ - Hold'em Manager Poker Tracking Software :: Create / Delete Database (http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/75/Create+%7B47%7D+Delete+Database)
*Now import a small portion of your \HMArchive so you can see if the problem exists in the new DB - FAQ - Hold'em Manager Poker Tracking Software :: How to Import & Export Hands (http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/98/How+to+Import+%26+Export+Hands)
*If the new DB seems to work properly, you will want to import the rest of your archives to the new DB, export/import the hands from the old DB to the new DB, and export/import any player notes and tourney summaries - and then delete the old DB.
*Make sure you export/backup everything before deleting the old DB

i requested my hands from ftp and they went into the database ok and so now it's back to normal again. the only thing is that the (rush) hands are all in $0.5/1 NL format rather than RUSH NL and im guessing when i next import new hands will import as RUSH NL so i will have the same problem. i would just prefer having them as one or the other.

also when i was importing the txt file from ftp beta HH request i got a few anti-virus popup's;

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c193/Alex0r/poker/hem-import-virus.jpg

just thought i should let you know.

lihan
02-11-2010, 02:20 AM
does this hud work with overlapping tables?

Ajax
02-11-2010, 02:31 AM
1680x1050 does NOT work with the Rush HUD. I don't know if/when it ever will. My table was between 900 and 1,000 wide.

Oh... :(... I really hope that you guys can get 1920x1200 to work.

Whatever was done to get it from 750 up to 1000, is it not possible to keep doing more of the same thing to get it to work on 1920x1200?

If it is not possible to SCALE up the character recognition all the way to 1980x1200, then maybe it is possible to have a SETTING in Holdem Manager that works for smaller-range windows, and a SECOND SETTING that works for larger-range windows. Would that be possible?:)

smoothjazz
02-11-2010, 09:37 AM
I have updated , but I didn't see any rush hud when I played in rush table.
I have no idea.
Anyone can help?

Hit_or_Miss
02-11-2010, 10:01 AM
Hi

I now played 64 hands, HUD simply does not come up.

I have a state of the art machine, 4 Monitors but I try to run the HUD tables on main. Vista with no Aero and all tables are reasonably seized (2/4/6 per monitor neither works).

Hands are in the database as Rush hands, HUD is working on normal tables.

Pls show me the button to turn the HUD on.

smoothjazz
02-11-2010, 10:04 AM
Hi

I now played 64 hands, HUD simply does not come up.

I have a state of the art machine, 4 Monitors but I try to run the HUD tables on main. Vista with no Aero and all tables are reasonably seized (2/4/6 per monitor neither works).

Hands are in the database as Rush hands, HUD is working on normal tables.

Pls show me the button to turn the HUD on.


I have the same problem too!!!
Is there a full guide?

eddie
02-11-2010, 10:19 AM
I have the same problem too!!!
Is there a full guide?

Well!! Finally I am not the only one that has not found the button...

In the non-rush-poker-tables the Won/Loss and mucked cards option does not work properly...

fenhir
02-11-2010, 12:18 PM
HEM-Rush-developer(s),

a few suggestions:

- On /HUD Options/Player Preferences... make it configurable to define a HUD-layout just for Rush-tables. I have made an extra copy of my normal NL/PL-FR-HUD which I exclusively use for Rush. This is needed because on a Rush-table one has not to overlay stats over the player-name -- which I do normaly on a FR-table.

So in the "Use for"-tab I would like to have not only "NL/PL, Limit and Tourney"... "Rush" is needed, too... Maybe only visible if one uses "FullTilt" under "Site". Maybe it would be enough to put "Rush" in the "Games"-selection (not only "All games, Holdem, Omaha and Omaha8).

As a workaroud I have to switch each time the HUD used for NL-PL-FR on Fulltilt... Thats not the way it should be.

- A little bug: If I define different colours for the stat "Abb. Name", which is done to see how many bb a villain has... This does not work on Rush-tables. But it works nicely on "normal" tables. Maybe you "forgot" to grab the stack-sizes? ;)

Besides that... Rush-HUD seems to work fine, playing a single table with 800px width, without cleartype on a about 8 year old machine. I think I could even play a second table. :D

restless_native
02-11-2010, 12:28 PM
I installed the update and the HUD worked perfectly on 4 tables for a while.

However, after 5 minutes or so it crashes. Sometimes sooner than that.

Any suggestions?

fozzy71
02-11-2010, 02:01 PM
If you are using graphics mods you need to restore the default FTP graphics.

http://www.fozzypokermods.com/ftprestore.html

You should be able to use the Selective Restore Package and install the BasePods Classic and BasePods RaceTrack so that HMHUD can properly read the names from the basepod. The area around the player name text must be the default colors of Black or White.

Hit_or_Miss
02-11-2010, 02:31 PM
I do not use any Mods.
Just tried some 30 hands or so again. Import still working fine. No freaking HUD appears.

Any documentation would be helpful. Table list pops up, the Rush table is listed there but only for a second. After that list is empty no tables can be found manually, but import is running. No HUD.

As I said computer is high end so no performance problems there.

I am on tilt, I wanna play and not eff around with some software. By the way it would be a really cool feature if HEM automatically checks and informs about updates and asks if they should be made like it is commonly done with other programms.

I was a HEM fan early on but lately I am not very satisfied (multi currency and other things). You advertising "Still flying blind" while no HUD was available can be considered a 3barrel bluff with 5 high if you know what I mean.

britdevine316
02-11-2010, 03:48 PM
I do a layout of 4 tiled tables. 2x2

Rush HUD only displays on the 2 tables on the top of my monitor, and on the upperleftmost screen the HUD changes playernames that arent even on that table. It picks up names from tables 3 and 4, and displays those names on table 1 on whichever table as switched players most recently.

WallyWattz
02-11-2010, 04:56 PM
By the way it would be a really cool feature if HEM automatically checks and informs about updates and asks if they should be made like it is commonly done with other programms.


This. Why doesn't HEM inform you when an update is available? I usually don't check for updates on the site until it's something I need, like Rush support. Other than that, I usually keep as is for a while.

Respawn
02-11-2010, 04:57 PM
If you are using graphics mods you need to restore the default FTP graphics.

FTP Graphics Restore (http://www.fozzypokermods.com/ftprestore.html)

You should be able to use the Selective Restore Package and install the BasePods Classic and BasePods RaceTrack so that HMHUD can properly read the names from the basepod. The area around the player name text must be the default colors of Black or White.

So it's about the color of the area around the player names?
Will you be updating some of your mods with optional compatible pods by any chance?

Would it be enough to just make sure that modded pods have an all black background area behind the player names?

Can smaller tables be used if the Layout.xml is edited to have the required font size or no chance?

pog0
02-11-2010, 05:13 PM
Would it be enough to just make sure that modded pods have an all black background area behind the player names?

I didn't even consider the possibility of table mods messing this feature up, but I guess it makes sense.

I have a modded setup such that basically the entire screen is black (with a brown table outline). The HUD worked perfectly.

jerseys
02-11-2010, 05:29 PM
Just checked it out and it works.

You guys rock!

deusexmachina
02-11-2010, 05:35 PM
Hello,
Thanks for all of the hard work on the Rush hud! It is much appreciated.

Here are a few problems I observed when playing 4 tables on msvista.

1. The hud only shows up on 2 of the 4 tables
2. The hud pop-up only works on 1 of the tables
3. Sometimes the hud changes properly with a new player and other times it takes 3-4 hands to change.

Any suggestions?

Hope this helps the evaluation of the beta.

WallyWattz
02-11-2010, 06:16 PM
I was just about to write that only one table was keeping up in real time, but it seems to be okay now. It's just a little slow on the other tables. Are there any tricks to making it grab the stats quicker?

brit_abroad
02-11-2010, 06:32 PM
Its working to a reasonable extent - but I am 8 tabling (4 tables 1-2 6 max and 4 tables .5/1 6 max) and the HUD is not always keeping up. I have a pretty fast set up (quad core cpu, database on a separate server) so I wonder if you still need to do some tweaking. I will stay patient as I know its just a beta right now.

Anyway, thanks for doing this, 8 tabling this is pretty testing and having basic reads now as to who are nitty and who are loose is really helping - I don't have time to make notes with this many tables!

diablo0000
02-11-2010, 06:55 PM
my rush hands dont appear in my results graph from within HEM? is this a known problem or is there a button i need to press somewhere inorder for them to show up?

thanks

fozzy71
02-11-2010, 07:12 PM
I do not use any Mods.
Just tried some 30 hands or so again. Import still working fine. No freaking HUD appears.

Any documentation would be helpful. Table list pops up, the Rush table is listed there but only for a second. After that list is empty no tables can be found manually, but import is running. No HUD.

As I said computer is high end so no performance problems there.

I am on tilt, I wanna play and not eff around with some software.

If you want a stable release download 1.10.02 from the main site download page. This is a pre-beta version so you have to expect problems.

If you would like to test our latest internal build send me a PM.


By the way it would be a really cool feature if HEM automatically checks and informs about updates and asks if they should be made like it is commonly done with other programms.

This is being worked on currently, but this release would not have been part of that system. We would have done the same type of soft release on the forums only.



I do a layout of 4 tiled tables. 2x2

Rush HUD only displays on the 2 tables on the top of my monitor, and on the upperleftmost screen the HUD changes playernames that arent even on that table. It picks up names from tables 3 and 4, and displays those names on table 1 on whichever table as switched players most recently.


If you would like to test our latest internal build send me a PM.


This. Why doesn't HEM inform you when an update is available? I usually don't check for updates on the site until it's something I need, like Rush support. Other than that, I usually keep as is for a while.

This is being worked on currently, but this release would not have been part of that system. We would have done the same type of soft release on the forums only.



So it's about the color of the area around the player names?

I believe so, but I have honestly not discussed the technical aspects of it with Mike. I am just making an educated guess from my experience with BetPot and Poker Shortcuts compatibility.



Will you be updating some of your mods with optional compatible pods by any chance?

Some of my mods already had this in the past for compatibility with AHK, PSC, and TNFT. It wasn't always a successful fix and sometimes people simply had to use the default basepod images in their mod.

Here is a pic on a Rush table using my CardRunners Fog Theme (with HM Logo Table). During installation there is an option for BasePods2 (for AHK/PSC compatibility), and those are what you see. The custom ones that match the theme have a light grey gradient and the Rush HUD would not work at all when i tested it.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb176/fozzy71/HMHUD/hm-rushhud1a.png

Would it be enough to just make sure that modded pods have an all black background area behind the player names?


Can smaller tables be used if the Layout.xml is edited to have the required font size or no chance?

I do not know.


I didn't even consider the possibility of table mods messing this feature up, but I guess it makes sense.

I have a modded setup such that basically the entire screen is black (with a brown table outline). The HUD worked perfectly.

The main thing that will cause problems are the basepod images that the player name and stack info sit inside of.


Just checked it out and it works.

You guys rock!

Thx


I was just about to write that only one table was keeping up in real time, but it seems to be okay now. It's just a little slow on the other tables. Are there any tricks to making it grab the stats quicker?

We are doing what we can we internally to speed it up. I have done a lot of testing with it and PT3 rush hud side by side, 1 and 2 tabling. On a small DB the PT3 HUD is usually faster and as accurate as ours is. On a large DB (mine had 250k played hands) the PT3 rush HUD begins to slow down noticeably and our HUD is as fast or faster to change most of the time. Their HUD also began to miss more players than our HUD would.

In all of my testing, with and without PT3 HUD running beside ours, I always had stats showing before I had to make a decision.

Tested on Default table sizes on a 22" monitor. Ci7-920, 9gb RAM.



Its working to a reasonable extent - but I am 8 tabling (4 tables 1-2 6 max and 4 tables .5/1 6 max) and the HUD is not always keeping up. I have a pretty fast set up (quad core cpu, database on a separate server) so I wonder if you still need to do some tweaking. I will stay patient as I know its just a beta right now.

That is pretty extreme for Rush. How many hands per hour? Do you ever see a quick fold button? :D

Are you tiling on 1 or 2 monitors? Stacking? Using default graphics? What size are your tables and monitor?

fozzy71
02-11-2010, 07:13 PM
my rush hands dont appear in my results graph from within HEM? is this a known problem or is there a button i need to press somewhere inorder for them to show up?

thanks

Are you sure all filters are cleared? hud options > miscellaneous options > [x] auto apply filter changes to all tabs.

If you are still not seeing them try making a new DB for testing.

*Try creating a new UTF DB - FAQ - Hold'em Manager Poker Tracking Software :: Create / Delete Database (http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/75/Create+%7B47%7D+Delete+Database)
*Now import a small portion of your \HMArchive so you can see if the problem exists in the new DB - FAQ - Hold'em Manager Poker Tracking Software :: How to Import & Export Hands (http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/98/How+to+Import+%26+Export+Hands)
*If the new DB seems to work properly, you will want to import the rest of your archives to the new DB, export/import the hands from the old DB to the new DB, and export/import any player notes and tourney summaries - and then delete the old DB.
*Make sure you export/backup everything before deleting the old DB

Patvs
02-11-2010, 07:48 PM
We make about two updates to the RUSH BETA a day.

The link remains: http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/HmUpdateRush.exe
So bookmark that... and just reinstall it once a day.

To improve your current performance, try switching from racetrack to classic table view mode (or vice versa).

Crazyeyez
02-12-2010, 12:32 AM
My hands import as Rush hands.
Opponent hands import as Rush hands.
HUD shows up quickly and with correct names.

However none of the HUD stats from the current session are updating.
Stats from previous sessions do show up.

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq252/crazyeyez24/hud.png

Hit_or_Miss
02-12-2010, 01:16 AM
No Mod, Name is written in white on black ground.

The window with the table list is called Table Manager 1.10.01 internal 6 despite the installed version of HEM is 1.10.02.


No HUD is coming up on RUSH tables.

Sentin
02-12-2010, 03:33 AM
Tried searching but there is too much info to sort through. Been having lag problems the last couple of weeks even though i havent changed anything. When im multitabling (stacking) every little bit the action will freeze for 2-3 seconds.

I was told this could have something to do with rush poker hands?
I've just downloaded the new version and tried to purge all hands past jan 19th but for some reason when i put the right settings in and click purge it always comes back saying that it purged 0 hands and skipped over 10K hands because of filter...but i have the right filter set...my ftp name, only ftp, after jan 18 and all cash hands. But ya, for some reason it's not finding those hands and the stats are still in my reports.

How do I fix both these problems?

Thanks

DocBru
02-12-2010, 04:38 AM
If you want the hands purged also that you played, than DONT put your name in the player field

netsrak
02-12-2010, 05:46 AM
No Mod, Name is written in white on black ground.

The window with the table list is called Table Manager 1.10.01 internal 6 despite the installed version of HEM is 1.10.02.


No HUD is coming up on RUSH tables.

Thats not the correct version, use the link from the 1st post:
http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/HmUpdateRush.exe
and make sure to install it to the original installation folder


Tried searching but there is too much info to sort through. Been having lag problems the last couple of weeks even though i havent changed anything. When im multitabling (stacking) every little bit the action will freeze for 2-3 seconds.

I was told this could have something to do with rush poker hands?
I've just downloaded the new version and tried to purge all hands past jan 19th but for some reason when i put the right settings in and click purge it always comes back saying that it purged 0 hands and skipped over 10K hands because of filter...but i have the right filter set...my ftp name, only ftp, after jan 18 and all cash hands. But ya, for some reason it's not finding those hands and the stats are still in my reports.

How do I fix both these problems?

Thanks

This is a thread about a special rush release, please try the performance tips from the link in my signature and if it doesn't help please open a new thread in the support areas of the forums (Hud problems for example) and describe your system and configuration

tokyoplayer
02-12-2010, 07:52 AM
We are doing what we can we internally to speed it up. I have done a lot of testing with it and PT3 rush hud side by side, 1 and 2 tabling. On a small DB the PT3 HUD is usually faster and as accurate as ours is. On a large DB (mine had 250k played hands) the PT3 rush HUD begins to slow down noticeably and our HUD is as fast or faster to change most of the time. Their HUD also began to miss more players than our HUD would.

Since I don't believe you are trying to be intentionally misleading, this is actually just a configuration error.

brit_abroad
02-12-2010, 09:20 AM
Its working to a reasonable extent - but I am 8 tabling (4 tables 1-2 6 max and 4 tables .5/1 6 max) and the HUD is not always keeping up. I have a pretty fast set up (quad core cpu, database on a separate server) so I wonder if you still need to do some tweaking. I will stay patient as I know its just a beta right now.

Anyway, thanks for doing this, 8 tabling this is pretty testing and having basic reads now as to who are nitty and who are loose is really helping - I don't have time to make notes with this many tables!



That is pretty extreme for Rush. How many hands per hour? Do you ever see a quick fold button? :D

Are you tiling on 1 or 2 monitors? Stacking? Using default graphics? What size are your tables and monitor?

I am running at about 1600 hands per hour 8 tabling.

I am using the racetrack view with avatars and no mods, I have all 8 tables tiled on my 30 inch monitor (2560x1600 resolution) - see the attached jpg. The tables are approx 716x520 in size.

HEM and other apps are running on my 24inch secondary monitor.

flight2q
02-12-2010, 10:16 AM
Running 740 table width in XP, classic tiling. Have not seen any OCR errors yet. Only trouble is the speed [just 2-tabling]. I've done all the DB optimizations. DB is small; I'm using a separate Rush DB, because not all hands are recognized as Rush (HH from HH Beta, also HH on Rush ante tables).

Currently have: some C2Duo, 2GB, some Barracuda.
On order: i7-920, 6GB, X25-M G2 - that should do it

ProsperousOne
02-12-2010, 10:31 AM
Can you please add RUSH tables to the main filter tab (ie, next to NL, Pot Limit, Limit)?

TIA.

Kwakubah
02-12-2010, 12:19 PM
- A little bug: If I define different colours for the stat "Abb. Name", which is done to see how many bb a villain has... This does not work on Rush-tables. But it works nicely on "normal" tables. Maybe you "forgot" to grab the stack-sizes? ;)

I like to use this feature as well and it's not working for me either on the Rush tables.

trixter23
02-12-2010, 01:52 PM
Is there any way to NOT seperate RUSH hands from regular hands in cash game reports? All I want is when looking at winnings summary or by stakes to have them all together

ie.

Game Type Description Hands

.25/.50 NL 10000

instead of

.25/.50 NL 9000
.25/.50 RUSH NL 1000

eddie
02-12-2010, 02:02 PM
Is anyone having the following problem?

The stats exported as notes to FTP (no hud) aren't updating correctly: The number of players is freezed at 12497, and the stats in the notes differ from the stats at HM for the players.

morny
02-12-2010, 02:35 PM
Is anyone having the following problem?

The stats exported as notes to FTP (no hud) aren't updating correctly: The number of players is freezed at 12497, and the stats in the notes differ from the stats at HM for the players.

Yes this is a known issue, since HM is now grabbing stats directly via OCR this shouldn't be an issue anymore as you wont need to use it.


Is there any way to NOT seperate RUSH hands from regular hands in cash game reports? All I want is when looking at winnings summary or by stakes to have them all together

ie.

Game Type Description Hands

.25/.50 NL 10000

instead of

.25/.50 NL 9000
.25/.50 RUSH NL 1000

Go to the report dropdown Overall, then go to Filter > Edit > then select .25/.50 from the stakes list and untick everything else

trixter23
02-12-2010, 04:25 PM
morny that doesn't do anything. If I do that then they are still seperated between rush and regular. I want rush and regular hands combined into one line. I dont wan't them differentiated.

Ajax
02-12-2010, 04:34 PM
When I run a Rush hand in the replayer, I sometimes get a different hand count from the one that I get when playing live. The replayer # hands is smaller. For example, against one opponent the HUD showed that I had 1.3k hands against him when I was playing, but when I then ran the same hand immediately after that in the replayer, the HUD showed up with only 647 hands on that player. I saw the same thing with a another player too. Why would this happen?

(I am sure that is what I saw, b/c I took a screen image of the live hand to make sure.)

Sentin
02-12-2010, 05:56 PM
downloaded the rush update yesterday, played 2 tables of 50nl 6max today and the hud didnt show up. fwiw, I have a custom avatar (that only i can see), not sure if that makes a difference.

ElevenGrover
02-12-2010, 06:52 PM
Playing 4 tables of Rush; tiled. Am I the only one who is getting consistent/frequent mouse pauses? I tried running without TableNinja to make sure it was the new HUD and no difference. It makes a session feel like driving your mouse through mud. Anyone else?

milespro
02-12-2010, 07:23 PM
Running into an error that says,

Assertion Failed!

Program: ...
File: .\WindText.cpp
Line: 943

Expression: 0


Was running rush fine for the past day or so of play, this error just popped up in middle of play and now says it every time I launch the hud. I tried restarting HEM and applying the latest rushbeta at the link here.

B-Money
02-12-2010, 09:13 PM
Here's an update. We'd make a build for this but the build guy is at the opening ceremonies of the Olympics. Instead of making some of you wait for a real build, you can download this .exe and replace it with the one in the Holdem Manager folder.

http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/hmhud.exe

Make sure you close Holdem Manager before everwriting this file!

We'll have a more formal build put together a bit later when our Olympic hero gets back. :-)

* Fixed Multi-Monitor crash
* Better name recognition
* Larger table sizes work better
* "WindText.cpp Line: 943" crash should be fixed too

Enjoy,
-B

fozzy71
02-12-2010, 09:33 PM
My hands import as Rush hands.
Opponent hands import as Rush hands.
HUD shows up quickly and with correct names.

However none of the HUD stats from the current session are updating.
Stats from previous sessions do show up.

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq252/crazyeyez24/hud.png

You are using modified basepods. You need default basepods/colors.


Since I don't believe you are trying to be intentionally misleading, this is actually just a configuration error.

Could you be more specific? I am pretty sure I had it setup right, but I admittedly don't use it very often.


When I run a Rush hand in the replayer, I sometimes get a different hand count from the one that I get when playing live. The replayer # hands is smaller. For example, against one opponent the HUD showed that I had 1.3k hands against him when I was playing, but when I then ran the same hand immediately after that in the replayer, the HUD showed up with only 647 hands on that player. I saw the same thing with a another player too. Why would this happen?

(I am sure that is what I saw, b/c I took a screen image of the live hand to make sure.)

This is likely a result of your Additional HUD Filters and/or the Replayer filters. Hard to say without seeing some screen shots and filters.


downloaded the rush update yesterday, played 2 tables of 50nl 6max today and the hud didnt show up. fwiw, I have a custom avatar (that only i can see), not sure if that makes a difference.

Default player basepods? Try the new hmhud.exe and see if it helps. If not, Please reproduce the problem and post a screen shot - Capture a Screen Shot of your Desktop or the Active Window in Windows (http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/general/ht/winscreenshot.htm)

with the following:

1) The table manager
2) The tables (including one with no stats)
3) The ...handhistory\screenname folder.
4) The "\rvg software\holdem manager\importing\hud data" folder. I also need you to zip and email any files in this folder to me at fozzy@holdemmanager.net with a link to this thread.

Please make 3 and 4 the detailed view with the dates and file sizes etc.

To attach it to a thread in the forums, look below the post reply button when you start a new thread and you'll see a manage attachments button. Click this and attach the file.



Playing 4 tables of Rush; tiled. Am I the only one who is getting consistent/frequent mouse pauses? I tried running without TableNinja to make sure it was the new HUD and no difference. It makes a session feel like driving your mouse through mud. Anyone else?

The only time I ever got what you described is when I was using TNFT. Once I shut that down everything went back to normal. I did not investigate it closely in the Task Manager though.


Running into an error that says,

Assertion Failed!

Program: ...
File: .\WindText.cpp
Line: 943

Expression: 0


Was running rush fine for the past day or so of play, this error just popped up in middle of play and now says it every time I launch the hud. I tried restarting HEM and applying the latest rushbeta at the link here.

The new build should fix this error.


If any of you continue to have problems with the new build, make sure you post screen shots so we can try and debug your problems.

Please reproduce the problem and post a screen shot - Capture a Screen Shot of your Desktop or the Active Window in Windows (http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/general/ht/winscreenshot.htm)

with the following:

1) The table manager
2) The tables (including one with no stats)
3) The ...handhistory\screenname folder.
4) The "\rvg software\holdem manager\importing\hud data" folder. I also need you to zip and email any files in this folder to me at fozzy@holdemmanager.net with a link to this thread.

Please make 3 and 4 the detailed view with the dates and file sizes etc.

To attach it to a thread in the forums, look below the post reply button when you start a new thread and you'll see a manage attachments button. Click this and attach the file.

fozzy71
02-12-2010, 09:34 PM
If anyone needs default FTP graphics they can use my Complete Graphics Restore package or the Selective Graphics Restore package if they prefer to only install the default basepods, timers, seats.

FTP Graphics Restore (http://www.fozzypokermods.com/ftprestore.html)

antneye
02-12-2010, 11:57 PM
Hud is popping up. Hands are being imported (see the session in my stats), but hud is not recognizing any of the hands played in the session.

Cant figure it out.

cds0699
02-13-2010, 01:12 AM
Question, I usually keep my tables at the FTP default size, will my HUD pop up with tables at the default size?

Crazyeyez
02-13-2010, 01:16 AM
You are using modified basepods. You need default basepods/colors.


They weren't a problem, actually.
I realized HUD was only showing non-Rush stats. I unchecked then rechecked the "mix rush and non rush" option in the "other hud filters" and now it works.

Crazyeyez
02-13-2010, 01:17 AM
Hud is popping up. Hands are being imported (see the session in my stats), but hud is not recognizing any of the hands played in the session.

Cant figure it out.

See my post above for a possible solution.

tundra
02-13-2010, 01:55 AM
Here's an update. We'd make a build for this but the build guy is at the opening ceremonies of the Olympics. Instead of making some of you wait for a real build, you can download this .exe and replace it with the one in the Holdem Manager folder.

http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/hmhud.exe

Make sure you close Holdem Manager before everwriting this file!

We'll have a more formal build put together a bit later when our Olympic hero gets back. :-)

* Fixed Multi-Monitor crash
* Better name recognition
* Larger table sizes work better
* "WindText.cpp Line: 943" crash should be fixed too

Enjoy,
-B

Fixes all seem good! Thanks for getting it out to us for the weekend.

Just FYI, my HUD is failing to update on certain tables (at least one table would update properly each hand, but others would become entirely frozen or update only sporadically), much more often with this build than with the prior build. I 4-table Rush, and today was the first day I was playing a few regular tables as well -- maybe it's just an overall performance issue.

Ajax
02-13-2010, 02:10 AM
...Larger table sizes work better...
Awsome!:) Thank you for doing this!:) Please keep it going!:D More of the same!:D

Ajax
02-13-2010, 02:16 AM
When I run a Rush hand in the replayer, I sometimes get a different hand count from the one that I get when playing live. The replayer # hands is smaller...


...This is likely a result of your Additional HUD Filters and/or the Replayer filters. Hard to say without seeing some screen shots and filters...

There is an opponent who has zero hands when I bring him up in the replayer.

I went to HUD Options > Additional Hud Filters, and tried checking and unchecking "Mix FTP Rush and Non Rush stats," but the player still has zero hands.

Are there any other settings that I could try to change?

ProsperousOne
02-13-2010, 08:00 AM
Just FYI, my HUD is failing to update on certain tables (at least one table would update properly each hand, but others would become entirely frozen or update only sporadically), much more often with this build than with the prior build. I 4-table Rush, and today was the first day I was playing a few regular tables as well -- maybe it's just an overall performance issue.

I've got this issue too. One table of 4 typically doesn't update every hand. Maybe like one hand of 4 it updates.

Illustre
02-13-2010, 09:34 AM
Is it normal to not see hero stats with this HUD?

Mistral
02-13-2010, 10:27 AM
Hi

HUD simply does not come up.

Hands are in the database as Rush hands, HUD is working on normal tables.

Pls show me the button to turn the HUD on.

Hi.
I have the same problem.
The rush table is listed on Table Manager but is frozen on 0 hands although auto-import is working fine.

HUD simply does not come up.

Reverz
02-13-2010, 10:31 AM
I had the same issue as described above yesterday with the frozen stats on all but 1 rush table. This morning I installed the new hmhud.exe and now my HUD just doesn't even show anymore. Also when I start auto import it now specifically asks if I wanna execute hmhud.exe everytime... didn't have that before. (running Vista x64)

smoothjazz
02-13-2010, 12:45 PM
Hi.
I have the same problem.
The rush table is listed on Table Manager but is frozen on 0 hands although auto-import is working fine.

HUD simply does not come up.

I have the same problem too!.

HUD simply does not come up.

HUD is working on normal tables.

And Still can't find the "magic" rush hud button .

Ah............
Is there a installation guide?

Hunter
02-13-2010, 02:30 PM
Any chance this new screen scraping code can lead to POT Odds on the HUD?

DocBru
02-13-2010, 04:45 PM
Upgraded hmhud.exe because of the multi-monitor fix. Hud does not come up at all with this hmhud.exe... downgraded to the last version again

tundra
02-13-2010, 04:48 PM
Upgraded hmhud.exe because of the multi-monitor fix. Hud does not come up at all with this hmhud.exe... downgraded to the last version again

My new version of the hmhud.exe was working last night (with performance issues), but today I'm in the same situation, it's not coming up at all so I also downgraded.

vHatch
02-13-2010, 06:03 PM
Any chance this new screen scraping code can lead to POT Odds on the HUD?

Pretty sure the sites don't allow this or it would have been done already.

The new non-build .exe is working great for me 2-tabling rush. I was getting stats on less than half the players before and now it recognizes pretty much every name correctly.

fozzy71
02-13-2010, 06:14 PM
Hud is popping up. Hands are being imported (see the session in my stats), but hud is not recognizing any of the hands played in the session.

Cant figure it out.

Not sure what you mean. You mean the villain stats dont update during the session with information from the new hands played during that session?


Question, I usually keep my tables at the FTP default size, will my HUD pop up with tables at the default size?

Yes, it should.


Fixes all seem good! Thanks for getting it out to us for the weekend.

Just FYI, my HUD is failing to update on certain tables (at least one table would update properly each hand, but others would become entirely frozen or update only sporadically), much more often with this build than with the prior build. I 4-table Rush, and today was the first day I was playing a few regular tables as well -- maybe it's just an overall performance issue.

All default FTP graphics? What size are the tables? Can you post some screen shots?

Please reproduce the problem and post a screen shot - Capture a Screen Shot of your Desktop or the Active Window in Windows (http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/general/ht/winscreenshot.htm)

with the following:

1) The table manager
2) The tables (including one with no stats)
3) The ...handhistory\screenname folder.
4) The "\rvg software\holdem manager\importing\hud data" folder. I also need you to zip and email any files in this folder to me at fozzy@holdemmanager.net with a link to this thread.

Please make 3 and 4 the detailed view with the dates and file sizes etc.

To attach it to a thread in the forums, look below the post reply button when you start a new thread and you'll see a manage attachments button. Click this and attach the file.



There is an opponent who has zero hands when I bring him up in the replayer.

I went to HUD Options > Additional Hud Filters, and tried checking and unchecking "Mix FTP Rush and Non Rush stats," but the player still has zero hands.

Are there any other settings that I could try to change?

The HUD in the Replayer always shows him for 0 hands (no stats)? The manager shows how many hands for him? Can you post some screen shots or send me your Rush hands?


I've got this issue too. One table of 4 typically doesn't update every hand. Maybe like one hand of 4 it updates.

Any details you can give would be helpful. Ideally we would like to see screen shots of the stuff I mention above.


Is it normal to not see hero stats with this HUD?

Yes, there is no Hero HUD. Table image is a lot less important at the Rush tables and the stats would always be a few hands behind because of quick-folding.


Hi.
I have the same problem.
The rush table is listed on Table Manager but is frozen on 0 hands although auto-import is working fine.

HUD simply does not come up.

Make sure you have the latest hmhud.exe file installed. If you still can't get it figured out post some screen shots or email me for a support session.


I had the same issue as described above yesterday with the frozen stats on all but 1 rush table. This morning I installed the new hmhud.exe and now my HUD just doesn't even show anymore. Also when I start auto import it now specifically asks if I wanna execute hmhud.exe everytime... didn't have that before. (running Vista x64)

Please give HoldemManager Administrator rights -

1) Go to C:\Program Files\RVG Software\Holdem Manager (Program Files (x86) if you have the 64bit version)
2) Rightclick the HoldemManager.exe and choose "Properties".
3) Go to the Compatibility Tab and select "Run this program as an Administrator".
4) Do the same for HMHud.exe and DBControlPanel.exe



I have the same problem too!.

HUD simply does not come up.

HUD is working on normal tables.

And Still can't find the "magic" rush hud button .

Ah............
Is there a installation guide?

Follow my previous instructions or email me.


Any chance this new screen scraping code can lead to POT Odds on the HUD?

I can't say at this point. I hope it will be used to fix the pre-fetch HUD first, before we consider that option.


Upgraded hmhud.exe because of the multi-monitor fix. Hud does not come up at all with this hmhud.exe... downgraded to the last version again


My new version of the hmhud.exe was working last night (with performance issues), but today I'm in the same situation, it's not coming up at all so I also downgraded.

Follow my previous instructions or email me.

Anyone that can't get it working at all, Please email me at fozzy@holdemmanager.net, with a link to this thread, and your forum name, so we can schedule a Teamviewer session. Download the Teamviewer Quick Support Module - http://www.holdemmanager.net/teamviewer. Please let me know what time zone you are in and what time/days are convenient for you. I schedule support from 12:00 - 22:00 EDT, 7 days a week.

Ajax
02-13-2010, 07:32 PM
When I run a Rush hand in the replayer, I sometimes get a different hand count from the one that I get when playing live. The replayer # hands is smaller...


...This is likely a result of your Additional HUD Filters and/or the Replayer filters. Hard to say without seeing some screen shots and filters...


There is an opponent who has zero hands when I bring him up in the replayer.

I went to HUD Options > Additional Hud Filters, and tried checking and unchecking "Mix FTP Rush and Non Rush stats," but the player still has zero hands.

Are there any other settings that I could try to change?


...The HUD in the Replayer always shows him for 0 hands (no stats)? The manager shows how many hands for him? Can you post some screen shots or send me your Rush hands?...

Here is a replayer image that has zero hands for every single opponent:

<img src="http://imgur.com/K3nyV.jpg" alt="Hosted by imgur.com" />

There are hands in the databse for these players. For example, I have over 90 hands on the player directly to my right.

Also note that the 93,000 hands that is shown for me are non-rush hands, so for some reason my non-rush hands are in the replayer when I run a rush hand. I have 142k hands for me in my database. 93k are regular hands, and 50k are rush hands.

Ajax
02-13-2010, 07:59 PM
I still cannot use my HUD in rush because the screen is too small. 1,648 pixels wide is what I need (1920x1200 would be even better).


If it is not possible to SCALE up the character recognition all the way to 1920x1200, then maybe it is possible to have a SETTING in Holdem Manager that works for smaller-range windows, and a SECOND SETTING that works for larger-range windows. Would that be possible?

Why not just skip the work on all of the medium size tables? Just have the small talbes and the large table that is 1,648 pixels wide.

I am still waiting to use my HUD.

neff
02-13-2010, 08:45 PM
i have had a lot of trouble getting this to work correctly but this last version was pretty good (the standalone exe without the install package).

are there plans to make this work on smaller tables? i play on my laptop a lot and can't put three tables on the screen without major overlap at the required size.

thank you for making the rush hud a top priority and working to get something out so quickly.

morny
02-14-2010, 12:05 AM
Here is a replayer image that has zero hands for every single opponent:

There are hands in the databse for these players. For example, I have over 90 hands on the player directly to my right.

Also note that the 93,000 hands that is shown for me are non-rush hands, so for some reason my non-rush hands are in the replayer when I run a rush hand. I have 142k hands for me in my database. 93k are regular hands, and 50k are rush hands.

Yeah there seems to be an issue with this, well look into it.


I still cannot use my HUD in rush because the screen is too small. 1,648 pixels wide is what I need (1920x1200 would be even better).



Why not just skip the work on all of the medium size tables? Just have the small talbes and the large table that is 1,648 pixels wide.

I am still waiting to use my HUD.

Well continue to work on improving the hud for smaller/bigger tables however i'm not sure at this point how big or small its possible to get this working with.


i have had a lot of trouble getting this to work correctly but this last version was pretty good (the standalone exe without the install package).

are there plans to make this work on smaller tables? i play on my laptop a lot and can't put three tables on the screen without major overlap at the required size.

thank you for making the rush hud a top priority and working to get something out so quickly.

See above

Ajax
02-14-2010, 12:18 AM
Well continue to work on improving the hud for smaller/bigger tables however i'm not sure at this point how big or small its possible to get this working with.

I really appreciate this. I do not know the details about how the OCR is developed, but based on the little bit that I do know, I think 1,648 pixels wide might actually be easier than the smaller tables.

Also, please keep in mind that some of us simply cannot see the small screens very well, and that the small screens cause eye strain for some of us as well.

Thank you.

Veteran68
02-14-2010, 01:45 AM
Pretty sure the sites don't allow this or it would have been done already.
There's numerous software that displays live pot odds that are allowed on all the major poker sites. They don't mind the display of odds as long as the software doesn't make play recommendations. They even allow win odds vs pot odds display.

By itself pot odds is such a simple calculation that most seasoned players can make it in their heads almost instantly.

Ajax
02-14-2010, 02:11 AM
Upgraded hmhud.exe because of the multi-monitor fix. Hud does not come up at all with this hmhud.exe... downgraded to the last version again


My new version of the hmhud.exe was working last night (with performance issues), but today I'm in the same situation, it's not coming up at all so I also downgraded.

I downgraded too. I was able to get a larger table to work with the older version.

Golden_Age
02-14-2010, 03:58 AM
why are there so many problems with scraping certain letters for a working hud? Half of the players don't even show up with stats while playing even though I have hundreds/thousands of hands with them in cases.

MUPP
02-14-2010, 04:18 AM
Love the update! still some issues w/ the recognition of certain characters. i.e. lowercase "Q" is registering as lowercase "G", uppercase "J" is registering as open bracket ].

Most importantly, how do I restore all of my former FTP notes? they are all as .bak files, and I don't know how to change them to .xml files?

inavacuum
02-14-2010, 06:56 AM
Love the update! still some issues w/ the recognition of certain characters. i.e. lowercase "Q" is registering as lowercase "G", uppercase "J" is registering as open bracket ].

Most importantly, how do I restore all of my former FTP notes? they are all as .bak files, and I don't know how to change them to .xml files?

Just renaming the extension from .bak to .xml should work.

DocBru
02-14-2010, 07:11 AM
Upgraded hmhud.exe because of the multi-monitor fix. Hud does not come up at all with this hmhud.exe... downgraded to the last version again


OK no idea what is different today... I wanted to reproduce the bug and report it, but it works now ;)

morny
02-14-2010, 02:18 PM
why are there so many problems with scraping certain letters for a working hud? Half of the players don't even show up with stats while playing even though I have hundreds/thousands of hands with them in cases.

Heres a list of things to try that have helped other people, some are obvious but may help nonetheless. Were still continuing to improve things aswell.

1) Make sure FTP Lobby > Languages > Language Options are set to English

2) The tables need to be sized appropriately. (600 - 750 range) If your Rush table is outside of that range a pop-up message in the HUD window will advise you.

3) Make sure your HUD doesn't overlap names on the table. We're using a screen scrape method for various reasons and the names must be visible so we can read them.

4) Most performance issues can be resolved by changing the table window size even by a small amount.See #1 and make sure you have the rush update installed http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/HmUpdateRush.exe

5) Test the Hud out on a normal table first to verify its working

6) Dont use any Aero or other windows themes, change it to the default xp/vistawin7 theme

XP Windows XP: Use Windows XP in "Classic view" (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/personalize/classic.mspx)
Vista Change the desktop theme (http://www.microsoft.com/enable/training/windowsvista/theme.aspx)
Win7
Windows 7 Switching Desktop Themes in Windows 7: Changing the Windows Aero Theme With Two Easy Methods (http://pc-tutorials.suite101.com/article.cfm/switching_desktop_themes_in_windows_7)

7) Turn Cleartype Off
Vista How to Turn Off ClearType in Windows Vista (http://www.i4u.com/article7805.html)
Windows 7 Turn Off ClearType — MAXIMUMpcguides – Windows 7 tips, tricks, help, and how-to guides (http://maximumpcguides.com/windows-7/turn-off-cleartype/)

8) Turn Avatars off in Full Tilt go to Options and untick Avatars

9) Switch between Classic and Racetrack in FT by going to Options > Table View

10) If you are using graphics mods you need to restore the default FTP graphics.

FTP Graphics Restore (http://www.fozzypokermods.com/ftprestore.html)

You should be able to use the Selective Restore Package and install the BasePods Classic and BasePods RaceTrack so that HMHUD can properly read the names from the basepod. The area around the player name text must be the default colors of Black or White.

11) Reduce number of tables

12) Please give HoldemManager Administrator rights -

1) Go to C:\Program Files\RVG Software\Holdem Manager (Program Files (x86) if you have the 64bit version)
2) Rightclick the HoldemManager.exe and choose "Properties".
3) Go to the Compatibility Tab and select "Run this program as an Administrator".
4) Do the same for HMHud.exe and DBControlPanel.exe

El Helado
02-14-2010, 02:48 PM
Maybe its just me but downloaded it and it doesnt work on PLO right? The tablemanager finds the tables but no HUD.

morny
02-14-2010, 03:44 PM
why are there so many problems with scraping certain letters for a working hud? Half of the players don't even show up with stats while playing even though I have hundreds/thousands of hands with them in cases.

Should work fine as one of the support lads tested it earlier and it worked fine for him, have you tried it on NL tables just to see if its specific to PLO or not. Have you tried all of the above suggestions?

El Helado
02-14-2010, 03:57 PM
Im sorry. It started to work as soon as I got some hands in. Was just a bit surprised that I couldnt see my own stats.

Cherufe
02-14-2010, 05:01 PM
Hey, guys

My HUD is working on the normal tables, but it not starting on Rush tables.
Can someone give me some info how to fix this or even a link, I can't find a way.

I'm using racetrack view with blue carpet background.

Thanks

fozzy71
02-14-2010, 05:18 PM
There is a list just a few posts above yours.

http://forums.holdemmanager.com/releases/26165-rush-hud-fully-supported-4.html#post127737

Cherufe
02-14-2010, 05:21 PM
Saw the list and did everything, still no HUD.

Ajax
02-14-2010, 05:27 PM
2) Make sure your HUD doesn't overlap names on the table. We're using a screen scrape method for various reasons and the names must be visible so we can read them.


Is this an absolute must, or does it just improve the character reading? The reason why I ask is because my HUD (a smaller version of it) is significantly overlapping the names, but it is still reading them. Some names are completely overlapped too, but the system gets a read. Maybe the HUD does not interfere with the screen scrape at all?

fozzy71
02-14-2010, 05:34 PM
Saw the list and did everything, still no HUD.

Make sure the FTP Lobby > Languages > Language Options are set to English.


Is this an absolute must, or does it just improve the character reading? The reason why I ask is because my HUD (a smaller version of it) is significantly overlapping the names, but it is still reading them. Some names are completely overlapped too, but the system gets a read. Maybe the HUD does not interfere with the screen scrape at all?

Interesting. I will try to duplicate this.

Are you using Transparent HUD panel backgrounds? Or black/opaque?

Ajax
02-14-2010, 06:00 PM
Interesting. I will try to duplicate this.

Are you using Transparent HUD panel backgrounds? Or black/opaque?

I have the "Drop shadow (transparent)" checkbox on.

The panel is not transparent though, it is completely black, so I am not sure what the setting means. There is also an "Opacity" slider, and I have it all the way to the right and it makes the panel solid back. Maybe that's why the panel is completely black (the opacity slider), but the OCR can still read right through it (since the checkbox is on).

Reverz
02-14-2010, 07:04 PM
Please give HoldemManager Administrator rights -

1) Go to C:\Program Files\RVG Software\Holdem Manager (Program Files (x86) if you have the 64bit version)
2) Rightclick the HoldemManager.exe and choose "Properties".
3) Go to the Compatibility Tab and select "Run this program as an Administrator".
4) Do the same for HMHud.exe and DBControlPanel.exe
Thanks, this did the trick. HEM & HMHud.exe already had admin rights but after giving DBControlPanel.exe admin rights yesterday everything was working just fine today.

It's still weird dat I actually had to enable UAC to then give the program admin rights en then disable UAC again before it would work. Don't we all love Vista >.>

ElevenGrover
02-14-2010, 07:20 PM
The only time I ever got what you described is when I was using TNFT. Once I shut that down everything went back to normal. I did not investigate it closely in the Task Manager though.


I had frequent intermittent lags most visible in split second mouse freezes. Turns out it was Windows Media Player in XP grabbing cycles. Replaced it with Winamp and things are smooth now. Probably only a little help to a few folks, but there you go.

fozzy71
02-14-2010, 07:22 PM
I have the "Drop shadow (transparent)" checkbox on.

The panel is not transparent though, it is completely black, so I am not sure what the setting means. There is also an "Opacity" slider, and I have it all the way to the right and it makes the panel solid back. Maybe that's why the panel is completely black (the opacity slider), but the OCR can still read right through it (since the checkbox is on).

Thx for the details. I will try and duplicate this tonight on my PC.


Thanks, this did the trick. HEM & HMHud.exe already had admin rights but after giving DBControlPanel.exe admin rights yesterday everything was working just fine today.

It's still weird dat I actually had to enable UAC to then give the program admin rights en then disable UAC again before it would work. Don't we all love Vista >.>

I have seen this a few times in the past 8 months. It is 1 or 2 out of 100 Vista users that have UAC off but HM is still not running completely as admin. Turning UAC on and setting them to Run as Admin cures it, and then they can turn UAC back off.

Cherufe
02-15-2010, 01:47 AM
Make sure the FTP Lobby > Languages > Language Options are set to English.


It's in english. And the HUD is working on the normal tables, so don't think this is the problem.

EDIT: Don't know what I did but now it's working fine.
Really fast...

Tnx :)

jschell
02-15-2010, 06:28 AM
Most of the name recognition problems that the HUD is having on my setup is due to the scraper getting the wrong case for some letters, i.e., "C" instead of "c", "P" instead of "p", etc.

Could the HUD be setup to be case insensitive?

I would think that all of the sites don't allow two screen names where the only difference is case, so there shouldn't be duplicate name issues.

jschell
02-15-2010, 06:30 AM
Also, occasionally I'm having an issue where the HUD updates 4 of the 5 other players, but one doesn't get updated until the current hand is finished.

Ajax
02-15-2010, 10:14 AM
I have an idea about how to work around the name recognition problems.

We could have a separate window that is blank that the user would use to selectively pull up multiple HUD panels. A listbox of all the players would be on the right side of window. HEM would keep track of all the rush players that have come in during the session through the hand history, and then populate the list with only those player names. The user could then click on various names in the list to bring up their HUDs, and the window would be able to hold many HUD panels at the same time.

I think this would be useful because we often encounter the same player that is not getting an accurate read several times during a session. Once we see the player, we could bring up his HUD in the window and then have it ready (along with all the other HUDs in the window) for the next time that we encounter him.

The user's own name could also be in the list so that we could see our own rush session stats if we want to do that.

EDIT: This would also be good for when we want to stop play during a session to quickly review a hand. We could pull up the player's stats in the independent HUD window as we take a second look at the hand that we just played.

Veteran68
02-15-2010, 03:10 PM
^^^ isn't this pretty much what the Player Stats window already does? Haven't tried it with Rush as I don't play it anymore, but it sounds like you're describing Player Stats.

Respawn
02-15-2010, 03:33 PM
Gave it a try today. First of all, nice work so far.

I assume you know that character recognition isn't perfect yet, so I don't need to tell you that there are still a couple of problems in that area.

I think that you might want to look further into how this could be optimized in conjunction with Full Tilt's Layout.xml.
Since you can set the font, size, bold/not bold and anti aliasing for player names there, there should be a way to optimize the Rush HUD for virtually any table size as long as one has the right font settings.

Ajax
02-15-2010, 03:34 PM
^^^ isn't this pretty much what the Player Stats window already does? Haven't tried it with Rush as I don't play it anymore, but it sounds like you're describing Player Stats.
Yes, it is player stats. But for rush, it would be the player stats that get missed by the OCR. We do not have any stats on the misread players right now.

If you mean Active Players Details window, I think that window is only current to the last hand history that was read. When a new hand history is read, the players change in that window, so it would not be ready for the current rush table.

morny
02-15-2010, 04:13 PM
Also, occasionally I'm having an issue where the HUD updates 4 of the 5 other players, but one doesn't get updated until the current hand is finished.

Thanks for all the feedback so far, were continuing to work on improvements, dont forgot to try the list of suggestions on the last page as well to see if that makes a difference.

kaizer1981
02-15-2010, 07:05 PM
hey there, if i cannot have my tables a large enough size to display the hud stats, is there anyway i will be able to see them? Also do the stats update in the old fashioned way or do i still need to export them before each session?

Veteran68
02-15-2010, 07:44 PM
If you mean Active Players Details window, I think that window is only current to the last hand history that was read. When a new hand history is read, the players change in that window, so it would not be ready for the current rush table.
Yeah that's what I meant, I drew a blank on the correct name for it. It shows the same thing the standard (non-Rush) HUD shows, but in more detail. As I said I never tried it with Rush so wasn't sure how it behaved in a Rush environment. In a standard multi-tabling session, it includes all the players at all of my tables.

I guess what I don't get is how you would expect any solution to work if the OCR misses data? If the OCR doesn't pick it up (or gets it wrong) then it's impossible to have accurate stats until after the HH is written anyway.

Which begs the question, which may have been asked/answered already but I missed it: does HEM use the HH as the final word on the hand, in the event of a discrepancy with the OCR scan, or does it ignore HH for Rush HUDs? I would hope that it only uses the OCR data to update the HUD but does not store anything until the HH is written. Or at the very least validates the OCR scans against the HH and takes the HH as gospel if there is any discrepancy, given the less reliable nature of OCR. Otherwise OCR stats could be saved incorrectly and/or conflict with HH stats.

Again, I don't play Rush, but thinking through the process raised the above question in my mind.

fozzy71
02-15-2010, 09:54 PM
hey there, if i cannot have my tables a large enough size to display the hud stats, is there anyway i will be able to see them? Also do the stats update in the old fashioned way or do i still need to export them before each session?

The DB updates like normal regardless. The rush notes export is currently broken and will probably be phased out.

The only alternative to the Rush HUD currently is the APDW.



Yes, it is player stats. But for rush, it would be the player stats that get missed by the OCR. We do not have any stats on the misread players right now.
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......

Which begs the question, which may have been asked/answered already but I missed it: does HEM use the HH as the final word on the hand, in the event of a discrepancy with the OCR scan, or does it ignore HH for Rush HUDs? I would hope that it only uses the OCR data to update the HUD but does not store anything until the HH is written. Or at the very least validates the OCR scans against the HH and takes the HH as gospel if there is any discrepancy, given the less reliable nature of OCR. Otherwise OCR stats could be saved incorrectly and/or conflict with HH stats.

Again, I don't play Rush, but thinking through the process raised the above question in my mind.

The DB goes off the accurate hand history information. The HUD, if it reads the player name correctly, should be accurate. If the OCR fails the stats will likely be all Null/0 for 0 hands. That mis-read name will not show up in the DB.

Mejis
02-16-2010, 12:27 AM
hmmm HM just forgot to import a hand, is that a known problem on the rush tables?

fwiw I did have some computer technical dificulties in the period of time that hand was played.

Ajax
02-16-2010, 01:47 AM
I guess what I don't get is how you would expect any solution to work if the OCR misses data? If the OCR doesn't pick it up (or gets it wrong) then it's impossible to have accurate stats until after the HH is written anyway.

When the HH is written, HEM then has a list of all opponents for the current session. Those opponents would be put into a list and displayed to the user. The user would then click on any opponent in the list to bring up his HUD panel. That HUD panel would remain open in the window, along with other HUD panels in the window, for the next time that the user encounters the same opponent.

So the opponent might get by the first time, but if the user gets that HUD panel ready, then the opponent will not get by the second time. The second time the user sees the same misread, he will look down at the window of HUD panels and see this opponent's stats right there ready for him to use.

There is, however, some problems with this idea. For example, it would require the user to do additional tasks while playing poker. So it would work, but it is nowhere near as good as when the OCR correctly reads the names.

Magnum3k
02-16-2010, 04:54 AM
Had a few minor difficulties at first, but now it works great.

DocBru
02-16-2010, 05:23 AM
I am still having issues with a secondary monitor. Actually since the last fix it doesn't crash anymore, but the recognition is much worse than on the primary monitor.

Usually only 3 of 4 tables are detected or at least one is outdated... when I change the secondary monitor, to be the primary (everything is the same, except the taskbar moves over), it works MUCH better (like 100% recognition success)

Don't know what the exact difference is and that workaround is ok for me, but just wanted to let you know.

Dave1212
02-16-2010, 06:46 AM
Sorry to moan but this isn't working very well - in fact the last change has got worse for me - the hud is now very slow to update and its causing me to tilt. Could I have a link to the previous version (b4 you fixed the second monitor issue)?

tundra
02-16-2010, 11:57 AM
Just FYI, my HUD is failing to update on certain tables (at least one table would update properly each hand, but others would become entirely frozen or update only sporadically), much more often with this build than with the prior build. I 4-table Rush, and today was the first day I was playing a few regular tables as well -- maybe it's just an overall performance issue.[/I]

All default FTP graphics? What size are the tables? Can you post some screen shots?

Please reproduce the problem and post a screen shot...

I haven't been able to reproduce this, as for the last few days, the HUD has been working perfectly! I didn't update or anything, so I'm not sure what happened. In the last few days while it's been working properly, I've been running just HEM and Full Tilt/PokerStars. I think I might have been also playing some video or audio the few times I experienced the problem, so it might have just been too much to ask of my machine.

So if your HUD is freezing or updating slowly, rebooting before a session and keeping unnecessary programs closed could be the answer.

fasteddie_21
02-16-2010, 12:20 PM
Ok, this is just weird...


Previously, like on Friday, this was intermittent for me. Now, the tables aren't even registering on the Table Manager. I tried totally unmodding and that didn't work, and I've tried about 20 different table sizes. It's just that the table manager just isn't even realizing that there is a table open.

Vista x64, racetrack, help?


eta: Actually, the table never shows up on the Table Manager, therefore, no HUD, BUT WHEN I SIT OUT, the table THEN shows up on the Table Manager and the HUD pops up.

eta: As soon as I open a "normal" table, the normal table shows up in the TM. This obviously has zero to do w/ the RUSH tables not showing up, but wanted to let you know that normal tables work 100% but this issue exists only w/ RUSH.


eta2: ok, I guess I installed an older update. I've updated to the latest (1.10.02 beta 2) and for the HUD it shows (1.10.03 beta 1). The table is showing up in the table manager, but regardless of table size, there is no HUD whatsoever. The table manager shows for Players: 0/6 (0 short), 0 fish 0% VPIP and 0 hands.

Please help fellas :(

fasteddie_21
02-16-2010, 12:42 PM
I have seen this a few times in the past 8 months. It is 1 or 2 out of 100 Vista users that have UAC off but HM is still not running completely as admin. Turning UAC on and setting them to Run as Admin cures it, and then they can turn UAC back off.


Ahhhhhhh...I was wondering why I couldn't give admin rights. I'm going to try this now. Thanks Fozzy.

fasteddie_21
02-16-2010, 01:06 PM
Ahhhhhhh...I was wondering why I couldn't give admin rights. I'm going to try this now. Thanks Fozzy.

Yup, while that worked to set Admin rights, it didn't get the HUD to show. *sigh*

Cherufe
02-16-2010, 01:11 PM
ok, so my HUD is working great on two tables. Almost no waiting time, almost no name mistakes, but when I put up a 3rd table the HUD does not start.

The first two tables are on the top of my screen and the new table is down. When I chance them, the HUD is still working on the two old and not on the new one. Later today I will try if it works if I start all of the tables down or up.

Can you tell me how to fix this.

P.M. sorry I've there is something in this thread that will help me and I did not find it, but the thread is getting to big and not to helpful.

Best,
Cherufe

fozzy71
02-16-2010, 03:51 PM
I will try and answer some of these recent posts, a bit later today. Anyone that can not get it to show at all, or is having other significant problems with it, please email me for support sessions. Please email me at fozzy@holdemmanager.net, with a link to this thread, and your forum name, so we can schedule a Teamviewer session. Download the Teamviewer Quick Support Module - http://www.holdemmanager.net/teamviewer. Please let me know what time zone you are in and what time/days are convenient for you. I schedule support from 12:00 - 22:00 EDT, 7 days a week.

Ajax
02-16-2010, 05:16 PM
From what I understand, this can be done without a screen scrape. It appears that at the full-ring table, there will be up to eight separate information packets sent to give the seating arrangement before the hand starts. At 6-max, it would be up to five information packets. When Full Tilt is running slow, you can actually watch as each one of your opponents gets seated.

Have we tried to see if it is true that there are information packets, and to see if we can read them? If what I wrote is not exactly correct, is there still some other way to do this?

EDIT: It is possible that Full Tilt is serving up the seating information when the hand starts.

morny
02-16-2010, 05:42 PM
At anyone still having outstanding issues with the last version please make sure youve tried these suggestions as well

http://forums.holdemmanager.com/127737-post150.html

Clean
02-16-2010, 06:40 PM
Tried all of your suggestions morny; at 200nl my hud only works for a max of 3 tables, often only two. It's also mixing up the tables, putting the hud stats of table 1 on table 2 for example.

Strangely enough, when I move down to 100nl everything works fine; all 4 tables...

Respawn
02-16-2010, 07:00 PM
Tried all of your suggestions morny; at 200nl my hud only works for a max of 3 tables, often only two. It's also mixing up the tables, putting the hud stats of table 1 on table 2 for example.

I can confirm this.

Veteran68
02-16-2010, 08:19 PM
From what I understand, this can be done without a screen scrape. It appears that at the full-ring table, there will be up to eight separate information packets sent to give the seating arrangement before the hand starts. At 6-max, it would be up to five information packets. When Full Tilt is running slow, you can actually watch as each one of your opponents gets seated.

Have we tried to see if it is true that there are information packets, and to see if we can read them? If what I wrote is not exactly correct, is there still some other way to do this?
That is part of the client/server datastream, which is of course encrypted. Not to mention that attempting to intercept and decode that datastream is almost certainly a violation of terms with just about every poker site. They all have very strict terms against reverse engineering their software and their network protocols.

HEM is on good terms with FTP and would (should) never attempt to do such things without FTP's blessing, which I'm sure they would never grant. I'd hate to see HEM banned from FTP or any other site because they tried to dig in where they shouldn't.

I'm reasonably certain that the developers of HEM, PT3, and other successful poker software are pretty much well aware of what the possibilities are as far as what they can do and what information is available to them. PT3 uses OCR, HEM uses OCR, and the reason is because there's no other way to do it. I'm a developer myself, and I can't come up with a better way either. The only real achievable goal to shoot for here is faster, more reliable OCR performance, and that's a difficult one.

No offense intended, but I think you need to let it rest for awhile. Rush is not HEM's top priority -- they responded to PT3's head start on a Rush HUD, and by all accounts did a better job. Now they have more pressing things to work on than constantly refining Rush support to suit what appears to be a relatively small minority (an especially tiny minority when you include things like 1920x1200 table support).

morny
02-16-2010, 08:33 PM
I can confirm this.

Hi, are you confirming it works better at 100nl than 200nl or just confirming youve tried all those steps? Would be pretty weird if the stakes were having an effect

The Minder
02-16-2010, 08:40 PM
....No offense intended, but I think you need to let it rest for awhile. Rush is not HEM's top priority -- they responded to PT3's head start on a Rush HUD, and by all accounts did a better job. Now they have more pressing things to work on than constantly refining Rush support to suit what appears to be a relatively small minority (an especially tiny minority when you include things like 1920x1200 table support).

POTY... thank you

Ajax
02-16-2010, 08:44 PM
PT3 uses OCR, HEM uses OCR, and the reason is because there's no other way to do it. No offense intended, but I think you need to let it rest for awhile...(...things like 1920x1200 table support).

PT3 does not use OCR. So there is another way to do it, and it is being done. Full Tilt might even be serving up the seating information when the hand starts (e.g., the information packets might not be encrypted, or encryption might be removed and then given to the client, etc.).

There was no mention in that post about 1920x1200 table support. If you have a comment about 1920x1200, then if you respond to the post that I put it in, and not in a post that has nothing to do with it, you might get a better response from me.


That is part of the client/server datastream, which is of course encrypted. Not to mention that attempting to intercept and decode that datastream is almost certainly a violation of terms with just about every poker site...
I doubt that PT3 has violated any terms. Of course it is possible, but it is also unlikely. There are multiple layers in a client-server data stream (at one time it was seven I believe), and reading the outer layers is not a violation, and sometimes reading the inner layers is also not a violation (like when it is expected). Furthermore, complicated reading is not even needed if Full Tilt is serving up the seating information.

So I think you need to let it rest yourself, and get your facts straight too (PT3 and OCR), and stay with the topic of the thread.

And if you think too much time is being used on this, then why did you "beg the question" about how HEM uses OCR (your words, not mine) in your long post yesterday? I posted, and you wanted more information. Here you are asking questions:

Yeah that's what I meant, I drew a blank on the correct name for it. It shows the same thing the standard (non-Rush) HUD shows, but in more detail. As I said I never tried it with Rush so wasn't sure how it behaved in a Rush environment. In a standard multi-tabling session, it includes all the players at all of my tables.

I guess what I don't get is how you would expect any solution to work if the OCR misses data? If the OCR doesn't pick it up (or gets it wrong) then it's impossible to have accurate stats until after the HH is written anyway.

Which begs the question, which may have been asked/answered already but I missed it: does HEM use the HH as the final word on the hand, in the event of a discrepancy with the OCR scan, or does it ignore HH for Rush HUDs? I would hope that it only uses the OCR data to update the HUD but does not store anything until the HH is written. Or at the very least validates the OCR scans against the HH and takes the HH as gospel if there is any discrepancy, given the less reliable nature of OCR. Otherwise OCR stats could be saved incorrectly and/or conflict with HH stats.

Again, I don't play Rush, but thinking through the process raised the above question in my mind.

But then you wrote in your next post:


...they have more pressing things to work on...

That's quite a bit of writing for someone who thinks that there are "more pressing things to work on." If that's what you think, then don't ask me for more information about my post.

I and another poster took time to answer your questions (e.g., post #175), and now you complain. But you did not complain when I answered YOUR questions at post #175, did you?

If you have more questions, I may or may not answer them, but to be honest my concern is that it would not be very productive.

Besides, this thread IS about the Rush poker HUD, and there IS a problem with the opponent names... so try to stay on topic.

Nightrain
02-16-2010, 09:30 PM
Not sure if this was brought up(Rush poker), HUDS/stats for players with an underscore* in their name(FTP ID) are not coming up, I would like to know if this can/will get fixed, I'm getting abused(3 bet) from a few of them and it would be nice to get some stats.

Sorry for the guys with an underscore in their name, but it's kinda unfair that I have all the other players stats an not yours =)

*Not sure if there are other special characters that have the same problem

Idmaf
02-16-2010, 10:06 PM
Not sure if this was brought up(Rush poker), HUDS/stats for players with an underscore* in their name(FTP ID) are not coming up, I would like to know if this can/will get fixed, I'm getting abused(3 bet) from a few of them and it would be nice to get some stats.

Sorry for the guys with an underscore in their name, but it's kinda unfair that I have all the other players stats an not yours =)

*Not sure if there are other special characters that have the same problem

+1

Idmaf
02-16-2010, 10:09 PM
ok, so my HUD is working great on two tables. Almost no waiting time, almost no name mistakes, but when I put up a 3rd table the HUD does not start.

The first two tables are on the top of my screen and the new table is down. When I chance them, the HUD is still working on the two old and not on the new one. Later today I will try if it works if I start all of the tables down or up.

Can you tell me how to fix this.

P.M. sorry I've there is something in this thread that will help me and I did not find it, but the thread is getting to big and not to helpful.

Best,
Cherufe

+1

Veteran68
02-16-2010, 10:20 PM
POTY... thank you
Thanks, LOL.

I give up ITT. A harder head I don't think I've ever seen...

Respawn
02-17-2010, 04:42 AM
Hi, are you confirming it works better at 100nl than 200nl or just confirming youve tried all those steps? Would be pretty weird if the stakes were having an effect

I am confirming that sometimes, the HUD will only work for 3 out of 4 tables and sometimes mix up tables so that e.g. the HUD from the table on the top right of the screen will sometimes display the the names for the table on the bottom right (which was also the table that did not have a HUD itself).

Cherufe
02-17-2010, 04:53 AM
ok, so my HUD is working great on two tables. Almost no waiting time, almost no name mistakes, but when I put up a 3rd table the HUD does not start.

The first two tables are on the top of my screen and the new table is down. When I chance them, the HUD is still working on the two old and not on the new one. Later today I will try if it works if I start all of the tables down or up.

Can you tell me how to fix this.

P.M. sorry I've there is something in this thread that will help me and I did not find it, but the thread is getting to big and not to helpful.

Best,
Cherufe

So, now I saw that the first two tables are starting with HUD, no matter where they are (up or down), but the 3rd tables is without a HUD even after 10-20 hands.

Hope this helps to solve this problem...

tokyoplayer
02-17-2010, 12:02 PM
PT3 uses OCR, HEM uses OCR, and the reason is because there's no other way to do it. I'm a developer myself, and I can't come up with a better way either.

As previously mentioned PT3 does not use OCR. It's lucky for the poker community that they did come up with a better way.


No offense intended, but I think you need to let it rest for awhile. Rush is not HEM's top priority -- they responded to PT3's head start on a Rush HUD, and by all accounts did a better job.

You clearly haven't used either solution if this is your opinion. Two HEM bunts in a row is not much of a comparison to a PT3 Grand Slam now is it?

GraAlaMat77
02-17-2010, 01:49 PM
I love you guys!
The HUD works flawlessly!

Now if I could just get some Bodog support without idleminer!!

Veteran68
02-17-2010, 02:11 PM
As previously mentioned PT3 does not use OCR. It's lucky for the poker community that they did come up with a better way.
Not what I was told but I defer on the point since I abandoned PT3. So clue us in: what method to they use, if there is no HH and they're not scraping the screen? Where is this "real time" player identification on a Rush table coming from if you don't know who the players are until the HH drops? Chat scraping perhaps? If so that's either OCR or pulling strings from the chat control. Other software (Hold'em Indicator and Tournament Indicator to name two) that work by chat scraping are typically using OCR in my experience, because when the chat window is scrolled up they will miss action. Window controls contain the same data regardless of scroll position, so the only way they'd miss action during scrolling was if they were using OCR. And if it was as easy as pulling strings out of the control, why wouldn't they, given that it would be 100% reliable?

As I've said before, I've played around with using Spy++ and other development tools to see what information I could grab from a poker client by monitors controls and Windows messages, and as I recall the pickings were pretty slim when going the conventional route of hooking into Windows controls. It's all pretty well hidden from view using either custom subclassed controls or more often just dynamically rendering data as images. Which is why OCR is such a popular (if somewhat unreliable) approach with poker software (HUDs, odds indicators, table scanners, etc.). It's about the only way to get at much of the client data outside of HH's.


You clearly haven't used either solution if this is your opinion. Two HEM bunts in a row is not much of a comparison to a PT3 Grand Slam now is it?
I've said repeatedly that I don't play Rush so of course I'm not using either HEM's nor PT3's Rush HUD. We're not talking about whether it works, we're talking about how it works, and like I said if you and Ajax have the scoop on how PT3 is doing it, then I'd love to hear it if for no other reason than professional (software development) curiosity.

And regardless of my own usage, pretty much all accounts I've read (plenty here in the forums and on other poker forums where I hang out) say HEM's approach to a Rush HUD -- however flawed -- is the favorite over PT3's. Lot's of reports of PT3 lagging really badly, especially over multiple tables, and other such reliability issues. HEM's apparently isn't perfect either, but with your "Grand Slam" hyperbole you sure sound like a shill for PT3.

theorize
02-17-2010, 03:35 PM
Hey there,

I have my tables set to default size with the default FT theme and no avatars. Certain players which I know I have a significant number of hands on are not showing there stats. According to the hud I have 0 hands on them (all there stat numbers are blank). This seems to be happening with particular players regardless of where they are seated. Like on one table I might see everybody's stats perfect. Then when it switches and one particular player or two reads blank. Like I said there seems to be a dozen or so specific players where this is happening with and everybody else is fine.

Suggestions?

morny
02-17-2010, 05:39 PM
Not sure if this was brought up(Rush poker), HUDS/stats for players with an underscore* in their name(FTP ID) are not coming up, I would like to know if this can/will get fixed, I'm getting abused(3 bet) from a few of them and it would be nice to get some stats.

Sorry for the guys with an underscore in their name, but it's kinda unfair that I have all the other players stats an not yours =)

*Not sure if there are other special characters that have the same problem

I tested an all underscore player names came up fine for me, maybe you can post a screenshot so we can see if something stands out, again i presume youve tried all the other recommendations a few posts back if your having issues?


I am confirming that sometimes, the HUD will only work for 3 out of 4 tables and sometimes mix up tables so that e.g. the HUD from the table on the top right of the screen will sometimes display the the names for the table on the bottom right (which was also the table that did not have a HUD itself).

Ok Thanks

morny
02-17-2010, 05:40 PM
Hey there,

I have my tables set to default size with the default FT theme and no avatars. Certain players which I know I have a significant number of hands on are not showing there stats. According to the hud I have 0 hands on them (all there stat numbers are blank). This seems to be happening with particular players regardless of where they are seated. Like on one table I might see everybody's stats perfect. Then when it switches and one particular player or two reads blank. Like I said there seems to be a dozen or so specific players where this is happening with and everybody else is fine.

Suggestions?

Did any of the 10 recommendations a few posts back make a difference or improve it or is it like this regardless?

morny
02-17-2010, 05:41 PM
At anyone still having outstanding issues with the last version please make sure youve tried these suggestions as well

http://forums.holdemmanager.com/127737-post150.html

theres the recommendations to try if your having issues in case anyone missed it

Respawn
02-17-2010, 06:16 PM
I noticed something else today.
I had the HUD working fine (with the usual glitches involving certain characters) on 4 tables. However, on the fourth table, HUD popups wouldn't work.

Clean
02-17-2010, 06:38 PM
^^^ that's happened to me as well.

fwiw, creating a new database strictly for rush has improved a lot of my performance issues. Not a great fix, but still works.

evanmorgan
02-17-2010, 08:45 PM
I dont know whether its been mentioned and maybe im being stupid but...

When i go into the players tab and filter for rush hands, i get a lot more hands than show up on the HUD.. Doesnt matter hugely as a "jist" is all i want when playing rush, but makes me worry that i may have loads of players showing up as handless on the HUD when they arent.

Ajax
02-17-2010, 09:52 PM
Did any of the 10 recommendations a few posts back make a difference or improve it or is it like this regardless?
For me, the recommendations did not make a difference.

I upgraded to the latest version today. I followed the recommendations in post #150.

Here are some of the misreads that I get:
l comes up as 1
tr comes up as b
no _ coes up as _
f comes up as h
atk comes up as a_<
S comes up as s
V comes up as v

Some opponents are getting to fly in under the radar every single time.

theorize
02-18-2010, 03:42 AM
Did any of the 10 recommendations a few posts back make a difference or improve it or is it like this regardless?

OK, I did all the recommendations. I gather that windows xp users won't need or be able to give HM administrator rights. I didn't see that option.

It is working much better now. I still get a player that I can't read every couple table switches or so but it's definitely more reliable now. Looking forward to hearing more solutions or get an update that will fix that.

Does it matter the table background theme? FT has a number of backgrounds to choose from in the classic and racetrack view. I figured the most monotone background would be best. What do you figure on that?

atata
02-18-2010, 03:55 AM
Sorry for my English. I downloaded and installed HM 1.10.02 beta2 and installed Rush update. I played nl10 fr, i have no problems with hud. But two days ago, when ftp begin nl5 RUSH, hud didn't show on nl5 stats. In nl10 that's all OK. This problem have only me, or problem in hm? Maybe reinstall help me? Thanks

Keith_MM
02-18-2010, 09:52 AM
I get the same thing , hud works fine with 10nl 6max rush tables ,on the 5nl RUSH tables the hud only appears when i sit out and then doesnt alter when i sit back in. hud works fine on a conventional table sat next to it.

ProsperousOne
02-18-2010, 11:02 AM
Sorry for my English. I downloaded and installed HM 1.10.02 beta2 and installed Rush update. I played nl10 fr, i have no problems with hud. But two days ago, when ftp begin nl5 RUSH, hud didn't show on nl5 stats. In nl10 that's all OK. This problem have only me, or problem in hm? Maybe reinstall help me? Thanks

I'm assuming HM recognizes RUSH tables via the table name, and if FTP has added new tables, then the names won't be recognized until a new HM update is released.

morny
02-18-2010, 11:46 AM
I noticed something else today.
I had the HUD working fine (with the usual glitches involving certain characters) on 4 tables. However, on the fourth table, HUD popups wouldn't work.

Have you tried ticking force on top in hud options > table preferences, has it made any difference.


OK, I did all the recommendations. I gather that windows xp users won't need or be able to give HM administrator rights. I didn't see that option.

It is working much better now. I still get a player that I can't read every couple table switches or so but it's definitely more reliable now. Looking forward to hearing more solutions or get an update that will fix that.

Does it matter the table background theme? FT has a number of backgrounds to choose from in the classic and racetrack view. I figured the most monotone background would be best. What do you figure on that?

Shouldnt matter unless your using a mod theme that you imported youself.


Sorry for my English. I downloaded and installed HM 1.10.02 beta2 and installed Rush update. I played nl10 fr, i have no problems with hud. But two days ago, when ftp begin nl5 RUSH, hud didn't show on nl5 stats. In nl10 that's all OK. This problem have only me, or problem in hm? Maybe reinstall help me? Thanks

Thanks this is a known issue and will be fixed in beta 1.10.03

atata
02-18-2010, 11:48 AM
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Coolers
02-18-2010, 05:02 PM
I'm experiencing some problems importing Rush hands.

I noticed it when I was reviewing my session's winnings, and it seemed off. So I compared the FTP hand histories, both the .txt and the graphical replayer, with HEM records, and HEM is missing maybe 1/3 of all hands. I've tried copying and pasting specific hands which I know are not showing into new text files for HEM to import, but they come back as duplicates of ones in the database. I was playing 3 tables of the same Rush stakes, and hands are missing from all 3.

I can send you the HHs, but I can't imagine I'm the only one with this problem.

Respawn
02-18-2010, 05:03 PM
Have you tried ticking force on top in hud options > table preferences, has it made any difference.

I haven't yet. Will do as soon as the problem occurs again. Hasn't occured again so far.

I just wanted to report what seem to be the most frequent OCR errors for me:

"p" will be recognized as "D" or "P"
"y" will be recognized as "u" or "U" (it seems to almost never get "y" right)
"g" will be recognized as "O"

All of these errors actually happen very frequently.

These are at (racetrack) table width 637 (which seems to be the "sweet spot" for me although I don't like that table size particularly :()

QTip
02-18-2010, 05:13 PM
Might just be a tard here, but I can't seem to get the Previous Hands in the hud. You know where it shows the last 3 hands, who won them and the size of the pot and you click on it to see the HH. I'm guessing I'm missing a checkbox somewhere or something.

Respawn
02-18-2010, 05:29 PM
Might just be a tard here, but I can't seem to get the Previous Hands in the hud. You know where it shows the last 3 hands, who won them and the size of the pot and you click on it to see the HH. I'm guessing I'm missing a checkbox somewhere or something.

I think this is just not part of the Rush HUD at the moment. I don't have it either.

Ajax
02-18-2010, 07:27 PM
I am still having problems with the names not being correctly read. I followed the 10 recommendations in post #150, and there are still misreads. I have reviewed the recommendations a few times.

Is there anything else that might work?

morny
02-19-2010, 02:06 PM
I'm experiencing some problems importing Rush hands.

I noticed it when I was reviewing my session's winnings, and it seemed off. So I compared the FTP hand histories, both the .txt and the graphical replayer, with HEM records, and HEM is missing maybe 1/3 of all hands. I've tried copying and pasting specific hands which I know are not showing into new text files for HEM to import, but they come back as duplicates of ones in the database. I was playing 3 tables of the same Rush stakes, and hands are missing from all 3.

I can send you the HHs, but I can't imagine I'm the only one with this problem.

Yeah please send the hand histories it was missing and also a screenshot of your hud, its handy to see what background/font type etc you have to see if this has a bearing on it


Might just be a tard here, but I can't seem to get the Previous Hands in the hud. You know where it shows the last 3 hands, who won them and the size of the pot and you click on it to see the HH. I'm guessing I'm missing a checkbox somewhere or something.

Yeah this isnt supported yet on the rush hud


I am still having problems with the names not being correctly read. I followed the 10 recommendations in post #150, and there are still misreads. I have reviewed the recommendations a few times.

Is there anything else that might work?

Can anyone with these type of issues post a screenshot or email to support@holdemmanager.net with details of the problem if you dont want to post a screenshot here as seeing the type of text/background etc can help us figuring out the issue

Ajax
02-19-2010, 03:48 PM
Sent email.

Isura
02-19-2010, 05:43 PM
Any way to revert to beta version 1? Mine was working fine last week when it first released, but not anymore..

Ajax
02-19-2010, 06:37 PM
Sent another email with more details.

(I forget to put a subject on my first email, so I re-sent the image in the second email, but I hope you guys saw the first one.:o)

morny
02-19-2010, 06:57 PM
Any way to revert to beta version 1? Mine was working fine last week when it first released, but not anymore..

Were checking this out, the 1st version was overwritten on the site but we should have another version somewhere, theres a new version out tomorrow either if you'd like to wait

Benholio
02-19-2010, 07:59 PM
I downloaded the latest today, and now my tables only update once every few hands. They don't seem to lag behind, they just either update immediately or not at all each hand.

The original rush-hud version worked OK for me, this only started with the current patch as of today (12/19).

Even if I close FTP and HEM, then re-open both, some of my tables will show the old stats for a few hands before updating on a new hand.

Anyone else seeing this problem?

Ajax
02-19-2010, 08:11 PM
^^^ That happened to me for a little while too. I tried some different table sizes, and I think that is what fixed it.

Benholio
02-19-2010, 08:33 PM
^^^ That happened to me for a little while too. I tried some different table sizes, and I think that is what fixed it.

Thanks. I'll experiment a bit.

fozzy71
02-19-2010, 10:25 PM
Here is 1.10.03 - http://www.holdemmanager.net/hmupdate

If you have still have problems and want to try one of the older rush builds, let me know and I can PM you a link. I don't want to post old builds ITT now that .03 is out.

Ajax
02-19-2010, 11:55 PM
Upgraded to 1.10.03.

In the replayer, the rush hands still do not show up. I tried going to HUD Options > Additional HUD Filters, and then checking and unchecking "Mix FTP Rush and Non Rush stats," but still no rush hands in the replayer.

For more details on this, see earlier post here:
http://forums.holdemmanager.com/127579-post139.html

Respawn
02-20-2010, 05:37 PM
The new update didn't do anything to the Rush HUD, did it?

I get soooo many misreads for "y" "p" and "g"! :(

I suppose it's because the lowest point of these letters is located further down than all the other letters' lowest points.
It very clearly appears that the lower part of "y", "p" and "g" is not even scanned/recognized, hence resulting in them being misread as "u" "D" and "O" etc. which are the closest thing once you remove the bottom of "y", "p" and "g".

SeeThomasHowl
02-20-2010, 08:05 PM
Support:

I cannot get a custom hud configuration to display on rush tables. Custom configs will display on regular tables no prob. But on rush tables the default config overrides any custom config every time. sucks. any fix for this?

Ajax
02-20-2010, 08:51 PM
Sent another email with more details.


The new update didn't do anything to the Rush HUD, did it?

I get soooo many misreads for "y" "p" and "g"! :(

I suppose it's because the lowest point of these letters is located further down than all the other letters' lowest points.
It very clearly appears that the lower part of "y", "p" and "g" is not even scanned/recognized, hence resulting in them being misread as "u" "D" and "O" etc. which are the closest thing once you remove the bottom of "y", "p" and "g".

The image in the email that I sent to support has examples of such letters being incorrectly read.

morny
02-20-2010, 09:08 PM
The latest build didnt include the updated hud, there was some last minute problems and we werent happy releasing it, we went ahead and released the HM update with Multi currency support as we were trying to keep a deadline but we should have a new build with the hud improvements soon

morny
02-20-2010, 09:13 PM
The image in the email that I sent to support has examples of such letters being incorrectly read.

Yes i passed this on already to the developers, thanks for that


Support:

I cannot get a custom hud configuration to display on rush tables. Custom configs will display on regular tables no prob. But on rush tables the default config overrides any custom config every time. sucks. any fix for this?

Im already dealing with this in another thread, please keep your questions in the same thread

pog0
02-21-2010, 08:09 AM
Here is 1.10.03 - http://www.holdemmanager.net/hmupdate

I'm currently using the latest version from this thread (with nothing but minor problems. q's being picked up as g's and such). Should I go ahead and update to 1.10.03a and go by "current release" from now on, or will this thread still be relevant for updates?

Advancer
02-21-2010, 03:09 PM
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/2663/bagv.jpg

Hi.
I made RushTableScanner
Free, RushTableScanner for FullTilt Poker (use Hold'em Manager HUD on RUSH tables) - Gambling and Poker Software Forum (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/45/software/free-rushtablescanner-fulltilt-poker-use-holdem-manager-hud-rush-tables-704145/)
... but, you do same :mad: ;) ... But I the first :D:D:D

RushTableScanner great work with HM 1.10.01.

I use WinApi function PrintWindow and I dont have problem with text recognition.
Imposing of tables against each other, pop-up windows and statistics HM do not stir the manager to program work.
Why you will not make as?

I'm sorry, my english is bad.

Respawn
02-21-2010, 03:33 PM
Speaking of a Rush table scanner...
You should include a feature in the HUD and Table Scanner that scans (server side would be sweet) the lobbies of each of the Rush games so that the Multitable HUD stat shows each player's number of Rush entries.

morny
02-21-2010, 05:11 PM
I'm currently using the latest version from this thread (with nothing but minor problems. q's being picked up as g's and such). Should I go ahead and update to 1.10.03a and go by "current release" from now on, or will this thread still be relevant for updates?

We have a new hud version coming soon with rush improvements for OCR and youll see the links updated in the notices section at the top of each thread

Advancer
02-22-2010, 04:25 AM
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/926/bag3.jpg

1.10.03a

Khiiniau
02-22-2010, 11:12 AM
I hope that HEM support has already noticed that Full Tilt opened yesterday new game type: Fixed Limit Rush 1/2 shorthanded. Table name "Thunderbolt"

Veteran68
02-22-2010, 12:38 PM
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/2663/bagv.jpg
...
I use WinApi function PrintWindow and I dont have problem with text recognition.


http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/926/bag3.jpg

1.10.03a

First, one developer to another, good effort on taking the initiative to solve this problem while HEM was working it out. Hopefully my comments translate postively back to your native language and you don't take them as insulting, only professionally critical. :)

Are those screenshots from your scanner? Because you mention not having problems with text recognition, yet both images do show incorrect text recognition.

Since you're using PrintWindow, you're just grabbing a screenshot and must be doing some OCR against the capture, right? Plus I see from your 2p2 thread that you have some pretty restrictive requirements on table size, fonts, etc., even more so than HEM.

I think it's a great attempt, don't get me wrong, and would be better than nothing if HEM didn't already have some support, but I'm not sure I see how it's as good as what HEM offers now.

fozzy71
02-22-2010, 12:57 PM
I hope that HEM support has already noticed that Full Tilt opened yesterday new game type: Fixed Limit Rush 1/2 shorthanded. Table name "Thunderbolt"

1.10.03

* Rush tables are updated from a server based file so when new tables are added by FTP, Holdem Manager will quickly identify that they are Rush tables.

a.d.i.t.h.
02-22-2010, 01:05 PM
hi guys, im new to rush poker and to HEM....
i have a problem with the HUD and i try to read some posts but i can't find the solution:confused:

when i click on Go in the rush FTP note export, it exports only 9 stats to the FTP notes!!

i played 8K hands with Rush poker and i use Windows7...in the cash games the HUD goes well, but in MTT it doesnt work....

help me... im going crazy...

sorry for my english, im italian

tonic1223
02-22-2010, 01:36 PM
Im getting an issue whenever i click on go to export. I use windows 7. I turned off aero, and gave admin rights like the OP says to. Then it says that the path to the file with my FT name for the notes is denied access.

Advancer
02-22-2010, 01:39 PM
Are those screenshots from your scanner? Because you mention not having problems with text recognition, yet both images do show incorrect text recognition.
It is Holdem Manager HUD error,on my screenshot LOL

I any more do not improve RushTableScanner because HM and PT3 have made text recognition.
Now it is senseless.



P.S.
I have simply given advice.
It is possible to use WinApi function PrintWindow and tables can be imposed after that

P.P.S
RushTableScanner now it is not necessary.
I hope to you have helped :)

a.d.i.t.h.
02-22-2010, 03:14 PM
hi guys, im new to rush poker and to HEM....
i have a problem with the HUD and i try to read some posts but i can't find the solution:confused:

when i click on Go in the rush FTP note export, it exports only 9 stats to the FTP notes!!

i played 8K hands with Rush poker and i use Windows7...in the cash games the HUD goes well, but in MTT it doesnt work....

help me... im going crazy...

sorry for my english, im italian


OMG guys i think i love u...

with the new update for HEM and RUSHPOKER now it works like a normal HUD...while HEM is autoimporting hands :D
it's fantastic!!
u are great!! u are genius!!

sometimes the HUD doesn't show some players' stats, but its no matter cause it happens in rare cases...

johndoe23
02-23-2010, 12:20 AM
I seem to be missing a lot of hands, in the hud, on Rush tables. I clicked the check box for showing both kind of stats but still seeing a lot of players which I have notes but no stats on them.

BlackSaphire
02-23-2010, 04:54 AM
Got some funny problems... 1.10.03a installed and working perfectly, except for Rush...

1920 x 1080, tabling Rush x4, I've got some... ahem... interesting results.
Let's number the tables like this:
1 | 2
3 | 4

1. Tiled tables, full screen (every table roughly 960 x 500)
HUD appears only on tables 1 and 2... skips a hand here and there, but overall working

2. Tiled tables reduced to 640 in width (done by auto-tileing 6 tables and then removing the two rightmost ones)
HUD appears on tables 1 and 4... or 2 and 3... it appears to be random, but never on every table

3. Tiled tables reduced to aprox 700 in width (by hand)
HUD appears on tables 1 and 3... only 1 and 3, no matter what...

I've noticed that in 1.10.3a the option to export Rush Stats to FT Notes disappeared... even if you stopped upgrading it, could we have it back?
It was something that, with all its limitations, worked for everyone no matter the resolution, PC speed, tables size, etc.

Ajax
02-23-2010, 04:58 AM
When I go to In Hud Options > Additional HUD Filters, and uncheck "Include hands from other limits," the HUD still puts the 100NL rush mixed in with the 200NL rush.

This is in addition to the error with the other checkbox in that window (my earlier post). So it means that both of the checkboxes do not work for rush:
[X] Include hands from other limits
[X] Mix FTP Rush and Non Rush stats