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Tim64
02-04-2010, 07:36 AM
New pc arrives tomorrow. Any tips on the easiest and safest way to t/fer HEM from old pc to new one?

key points are:
do I download HEM on new pc or copy the program accross?
do I use the same product key obtained when purchasing?
how do i ensure my hand database get accross if i do download HEM again?
any issues with postgres? Again, do I set this up from scratch and import all hands again or can i transport the db as is? If so, how?

Any advice from someone who's done this gratefully received. DB is 'worth' more than the new pc to me :)

Thanks

_Loki_
02-04-2010, 12:02 PM
Hi Tim64 - My main suggestion is you trawl through the FAQ's & you do your back ups

Here is my suggested process, but it's not the last word & you should wait for a proper support person to reply here :)


do I download HEM on new pc or copy the program accross?
Download



do I use the same product key obtained when purchasing?
Yes - one licence is good for two computers
Open HM on new PC. Go to the menu bar at the top. click on the 'help' menu to the right & you can register your 2nd PC through there if your browser is on


how do i ensure my hand database get across if i do download HEM again?
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"This FAQ details the numerous ways you can Import & Export Hand History files from Holdem Manager"
http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questio...6+Export+Hands (http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/98/How+to+Import+%26+Export+Hands)

See the section called 'Export all files' & do this in HM on your old PC - your HH's will go automatically to a newly automatically created folder here on your old PC:
C:\Program Files\RVG Software\Holdem Manager\HandHistoryExport_(what you named the database originally)

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When you have HM & postgreSQL set up on your new PC you can move these HH across into a folder you've created on your new PC (I would use a memory stick, but I don't have millions of hands) & import into a new DB you have created there (see same FAQ above)

If you have loads of HH's I think the best way is to use a network - but I'm not sure how

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This explains about moving the notes across:
http://208.109.95.123/faq/afmmain.aspx?faqid=119



any issues with postgres? Again, do I set this up from scratch and import all hands again or can i transport the db as is? If so, how?
IMO... Better to set up postgreSQL fresh & do what I suggested above to get your HH's into postgreSQL (through HEM)

But...

there's some new installers now & there's more than one version of postgreSQL now so don't listen to me on this :)

_Loki_
02-04-2010, 12:39 PM
Also you might use this opportunity to clean up your database of unwanted HH's by purging (because too old, wrong stakes, wrong sites etc) - this removes those HH's, but preserves the stats (which you will get rid of in a minute)

I would do this on your old PC BEFORE you 'Export all files' to C:\Program Files\RVG Software\Holdem Manager\HandHistoryExport_(what you named the database originally)

When the export is done you obviously will not then be exporting the purged HH's & also you will lose the stats element associated with the purged HH's - which is a good thing !

http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/100/Purge+Hands+from+Database
http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/196/Observed+Hand+History+Configuration

fozzy71
02-05-2010, 02:45 AM
New pc arrives tomorrow. Any tips on the easiest and safest way to t/fer HEM from old pc to new one?

key points are:
do I download HEM on new pc or copy the program accross?

Download and install with our new combo installer, if you are installing a new DB. If you are going to reinstall an old DB, and old version of postgresql, uncheck that option when installing HM.

http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/Holdem_Manager_Setup.exe



do I use the same product key obtained when purchasing?

You can use the same code for 2 of your own PC's, just choose the PC#2 slot when registering.

Please try using our registration system to register your current/new license. Then you will be able to retrieve or reset your own license, as needed. http://www.holdemmanager.net/Registration/

To get your current license from your running installation of HEM: Help > Show Serial Number

You will need to sign up, login, and then reset your code, then logout/login, to verify it was reset.


how do i ensure my hand database get accross if i do download HEM again?

You can try to move your entire \data folder if you have an external hard drive. Or you can try a .backup/restore of your old DB. Or you can import all your original/archived hand histories. I usually import the originals as my DB isn't real large like some people. Search our FAQs for details on the different processes.


any issues with postgres? Again, do I set this up from scratch and import all hands again or can i transport the db as is? If so, how?

If you have an external hard drive to transfer the DB:

Please update to the latest beta - http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/HmBetaUpdate.exe

For reinstalling SQL to the same DB, follow these steps:

1) Uninstall PostgreSQL from the Windows Control Panel.
2) If you are moving the DB to a different drive/partition, manually cut or copy the \Postgresql\8.x\data directory to it's new location.
3) run the command - start > programs > accessories > command prompt > right-click > run as administrator

net user postgres /delete
4) reboot.
5) Install the same version of PostgreSQL as your current DB using these instructions - http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/71/Reinstall+PostgreSQL+Preserving+Old+Database
6) If you have moved/installed your DB to a non-default location, please make sure to change the 'Data Directory' path during the installation.


Here is the backup/restore process - http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/72/Backup+%26+Restore+Database


If you play a site like stars/ftp you can email their support and ask for all your old hand histories and tourney summaries.

Tim64
02-08-2010, 10:09 AM
wow! loads of great advice here - will get started tomorrow. In an effort to cover all bases, i have:

1. backed up the entire DB to an external hard drive.

2. separately backed up the HHs themselves - in their origianl format as copied to the pc from the poker client - again to an external hard drive

3. separately exported the notes and exported the hand histories (and copied my Config folder as well - so that i don't have to reconfiq HUD etc) and copied these exported files from the RGV/HEM folder on C:/ to the external hard drive.

My main question then is: if I install HEM and Postgres 3 on the new PC from scratch, should I then be able to simply use the backed up database (by selecting it via recovery option in Postgres from the external drive) and if so, am I correct that I shouldn't need to separately re-import the HHs, notes and tourney summaries?

What I'm really wanting to check is that you either recover the db as a whole, OR you 'recreate' is by importing HHs etc, but you don't do both. Is that correct?

Thanks in advance,
Tim

fozzy71
02-12-2010, 11:42 PM
Correct. The Restore option should recreate the DB as it was. You would need to import any new hands played since the date of the .backup file.

Soap
02-13-2010, 10:30 AM
Hi, since we can only use our licence on two computers, what happens if I install a newer version of Windows, or want to reinstall my old one.

I'm gonna switch to Win7 soon and I have taken the habit of using a ghost to re-install the OS regularly.

Am I gonna be able to keep doing it, or will I be stuck with a windows I cannot re-install ?

netsrak
02-14-2010, 07:48 AM
You can reset your key via our registration system (link in my signature).

Steelesteed
03-04-2010, 08:17 PM
What has been described here seems real complicated. Woud this process work? Transfer HEM archived file to new computer, Install HEM on new computer, then using the import tab in HEM>import from folder>hem archive file.

fozzy71
03-04-2010, 10:52 PM
Yes, assuming that all of that hands that are in your DB are in your archive. I recommend you do as you describe, but also export your DB and then import those to the new PC. The \HMArchive only gets hands that are auto imported while you play. If you ever did bulk imports in the past or lost/deleted your archive, your DB may have more hands than is in your \HMArchive.

We are working on a new 1-click backup/restore process to simplify this in the future. A backup that will backup all of your settings, HUDs, notes, etc, along with your DB.