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RedEye00
02-03-2010, 09:09 AM
This is the HH:

Full Tilt Poker Game #18143349245: $28 + $2 Sit & Go (Super Turbo) (137225117), Table 1 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 7:11:21 ET - 2010/02/03
Seat 1: dilligaf2010 (375)
Seat 2: MTGLDY (540)
Seat 3: Danizzo25 (15)
Seat 4: jjbdjjbj4 (255)
Seat 5: xxx bouli (660)
Seat 6: marsal58 (295)
Seat 7: krz69x (260)
Seat 8: RedEye00 (300)
krz69x posts the small blind of 20
RedEye00 posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RedEye00 [5s 9s]
dilligaf2010 calls 40
MTGLDY folds
Danizzo25 folds
jjbdjjbj4 folds
xxx bouli folds
marsal58 folds
krz69x has 15 seconds left to act
krz69x folds
RedEye00 checks
*** FLOP *** [4s 3s 5d]
RedEye00 checks
dilligaf2010 checks
*** TURN *** [4s 3s 5d] [8c]
RedEye00 checks
dilligaf2010 bets 100
RedEye00 has 15 seconds left to act
RedEye00 has requested TIME
RedEye00 raises to 200
dilligaf2010 calls 100
*** RIVER *** [4s 3s 5d 8c] [3c]
RedEye00 bets 60, and is all in
dilligaf2010 calls 60
*** SHOW DOWN ***
RedEye00 shows [5s 9s] two pair, Fives and Threes
dilligaf2010 shows [Tc 8h] two pair, Eights and Threes
dilligaf2010 wins the pot (620) with two pair, Eights and Threes
RedEye00 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 620 | Rake 0
Board: [4s 3s 5d 8c 3c]
Seat 1: dilligaf2010 showed [Tc 8h] and won (620) with two pair, Eights and Threes
Seat 2: MTGLDY didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Danizzo25 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: jjbdjjbj4 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: xxx bouli didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: marsal58 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: krz69x (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: RedEye00 (big blind) showed [5s 9s] and lost with two pair, Fives and Threes

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/1246/noev.png

As you can see I received no all-in ev for this hand.
Is this normal?

netsrak
02-03-2010, 11:26 AM
you are not all-in before the river - so i think its normal

RedEye00
02-03-2010, 04:47 PM
Am I correct in thinking therefore whenever I play a pot where I am only all in on the river, 1 chip or 1000 chips, I get no ev for the hand whether I win or lose the pot.

Admittedly this scenario doesn't arise all that often but this is quite brutal as far as super turbos are concerned and all adds up over time.

I'll take my red line with more salt than I thought :)