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kz282
01-28-2010, 08:01 PM
Partypoker rake is said to be dealt rake, but is calculated as contributed rake in HM 1.10.1.

Today I have installed 1.10.1 over 1.09.03 and the rake stat increased very slowly as compared to yesterday's rake flow. Then I set the following filter:
Position: not SB and not BB and VPIP=False
The result: 1093 hands, 0.05$ rake which come from some blind posting from cutoff. This means HM calculates as Contributed despite this:


1.10 Beta 5 Other New Functionality
* Updated the rest of the site rake methods. Pacific, Bodog, Everest, FTP, Party, Stars and Cake use Dealt. Cereus and Betfair use Average Contributed Rake. Ipoker uses dealt until Jan 2 when it switches to Average Contributed. All others are set to Weighted Contributed.

The PartyPoints I received from day to day matched the double of the rake amount I saw in 1.09, but is far more than the double of the rake I saw today in 1.10.1.

netsrak
01-29-2010, 05:45 AM
Thanks, i'll forward it.

mofo
01-31-2010, 12:49 PM
Nice find OP. Hopefully this is fixed within few weeks. Will the fix require re-importing of hands?

mofo
02-07-2010, 04:08 AM
Did this get fixed in the latest beta?

netsrak
02-07-2010, 06:23 AM
Its not yet fixed

mofo
02-13-2010, 04:32 AM
Sorry for pestering but any chance this will get fixed before end of the month? Because of certain circumstances I really need my monthly rake stat to be accurate. :o

lirarmange
02-21-2010, 04:25 PM
Nice find OP. Hopefully this is fixed within few weeks. Will the fix require re-importing of hands?

+1

lewkiz
03-03-2010, 06:16 PM
I also want this to be fixed.

Thanks

mofo
03-16-2010, 05:33 AM
Is this the month you will fix this? It's pretty important because it directly affects people's income.

morny
03-16-2010, 05:52 PM
Yeah were currently working on fixing outstanding rake issues so hopefully should have this soon

mofo
03-24-2010, 03:47 PM
Did the 1.10.04 fix this?

morny
03-25-2010, 12:19 AM
Sorry wasnt fixed in that release

mofo
03-25-2010, 03:44 AM
Ok.. pretty strange though. Shouldn't be more than changing one flag/enum in the code. But wouldn't be surprised if it required more than that, the program doesn't strike me exactly as a masterpiece in software design.

EDIT: that probably came out a bit too harsh.. it's not like you were on a contract to do the software for us following some explicit specification and obligated to make our every wish happen.. if we like it we buy it, and if not we don't.. and I feel like I've gotten my moneys worth and more so far.

daredevil
03-26-2010, 01:59 PM
ummmmm. Let's see. HM calculates rake for PArty poker as contributed rake. Party poker says that they use dealt rake. But the fact, is that rake calculated by HM is EXACTLY the rake y make in the site!!!!!! i have less than 1% difference between HM rake and real rake in 2 months!!. So, maybe PArty poker is wrong and they use contributed or it is a amazing lucky fact.

kz282
03-27-2010, 07:05 AM
ummmmm. Let's see. HM calculates rake for PArty poker as contributed rake. Party poker says that they use dealt rake. But the fact, is that rake calculated by HM is EXACTLY the rake y make in the site!!!!!! i have less than 1% difference between HM rake and real rake in 2 months!!. So, maybe PArty poker is wrong and they use contributed or it is a amazing lucky fact.

Yes, but... As the rake stat of other sites which use dealt rake show the dealt rake (like Stars), then this raises questions. The wording of the rake and bonus points calculation in the PartyPoker web was misleading last time I read it. They use the "contributed rake" expression with the explanation of the dealt rake.

Maybe there could be a dealt rake (rake taken divided by player count, who have been dealt cards) and a contributed rake (... who have posted at least an SB) stat? And the third one could be the actual paid rake - taken from your winnings.

Expez
04-08-2010, 08:17 AM
Bug was reported at end of January and this still hasn't been fixed. Does this take more than one minute to fix for an experienced programmer?

MrWhippy
04-26-2010, 06:49 AM
Another release and still no fix?

Malmbilen
07-03-2010, 03:58 PM
How is this not fixed yet!?

Malmbilen
07-19-2010, 08:07 PM
Seriously, are you ever fixing this?

fabio
07-20-2010, 04:56 AM
Hi,

PartyPoker is set to Dealt. How different are your results? Please keep in mind that we don't seperate BBJ Rake yet.

ibombonato
07-22-2010, 02:36 PM
I made some calcs here today and the rake on HM is almost 21% more than the real rake...

I play both Jackpot and Std tables... I dont find any filter to JP tables here to see if the diference is only on JP or in both tables...

PartyPoints made on:
April: 2556.39
May: 3184.28
Jun: 4683.37

MGR = PointsMade/2 --> This is the real rake according to PartyPoker
April: 1278.20
May: 1592.14
Jun: 2341.68

Rake on HM
April: 1566.81
May: 1922.5
Jun: 2825.32

Diff %
April 22.58%
May: 20.75%
Jun: 20.65%

Hope u fix that soon ;)

Tks,

Ícaro

Expez
07-22-2010, 09:34 PM
You don't get party points for the rake that goes towards the BBJ...

gagaga
08-19-2010, 01:42 PM
hu sngs rake is wrong
the $6+.50 is showing $6+1
and the $11+.75 is showing as $11+1
and the $22+1.50 is showing as $20+2

is there a way to manually fix this? Pretty annoying as it completely skews the numbers when rake is off by this much.

netsrak
08-20-2010, 05:14 AM
You can edit the rake under tourney -> results -> dataview.

Please zip and mail the original handhistory files (you find them in the HM archive folder or in the handhistory folder of your poker client) together with a link to this thread and an explanation of the problem to support@holdemmanager.net. We will then try to reproduce the problem.

gagaga
08-21-2010, 10:16 PM
that only changes one sng at a time? How can I adjust all 500 or so of them?

netsrak
08-22-2010, 05:45 AM
You can select and edit multiple tourneys at a time

B-Money
08-23-2010, 03:01 PM
hu sngs rake is wrong
the $6+.50 is showing $6+1
and the $11+.75 is showing as $11+1
and the $22+1.50 is showing as $20+2

is there a way to manually fix this? Pretty annoying as it completely skews the numbers when rake is off by this much.

If you send us the original Hand Histories we can fix this for everyone. I'll play a $6+ .50 HU tourney today but the higher stakes are a bit much for me so anything you can do to help is appreciated.

-B

Ajeto
12-16-2010, 07:37 AM
Hello,

is the wrong RB situation now fixed ?

morny
12-16-2010, 11:41 PM
Yes, Please install the latest version: http://rvgsoftware.fileburst.com/HmBetaUpdate.exe but youll need to delete and reimport older hands, newer hands should then be fine

ibombonato
12-17-2010, 08:34 AM
JackPot Tables and rake for that are correct too ?!

Sarek
12-18-2010, 02:29 PM
HM don't knows how much money goes to jackpot