Delliks
01-28-2010, 03:11 AM
Hi
I was just wondering why the hand below is listed as EV $ Diff -$12.39 ?
Could anyone explain the EV to me, I know it's expected value of the hand.. but why is it listed as -minus sometimes when I'm ahead? Most of my sessions are listed as minus EV too, does this mean I suck at poker?
I know the call was lose with top pair top kicker but this player had been pushing all-in with draws previous hands.
Full Tilt Poker Game #17973849645: Table Recco - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:33:57 ET - 2010/01/28
Seat 1: Bratva4 ($42.70)
Seat 2: davidmeiye ($129)
Seat 3: ***ME*** ($60.60)
Seat 4: moeilijker ($100)
Seat 5: JackCadillac ($100)
Seat 6: blackcadi05 ($95.05)
Seat 7: StevenSullivan ($142.05)
Seat 8: POBEDA08 ($100)
Seat 9: harky12 ($196.90)
davidmeiye posts the small blind of $0.50
***ME*** posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ***ME*** [Ac Ts]
moeilijker folds
JackCadillac folds
blackcadi05 calls $1
moeilijker stands up
StevenSullivan folds
POBEDA08 folds
harky12 folds
Bratva4 raises to $2
davidmeiye calls $1.50
MrShame sits down
***ME*** calls $1
blackcadi05 calls $1
MrShame adds $70
*** FLOP *** [Tc 2h 9d]
davidmeiye checks
***ME*** checks
MrShame is feeling angry
blackcadi05 has 15 seconds left to act
blackcadi05 checks
Bratva4 bets $3.50
davidmeiye folds
***ME*** raises to $9
blackcadi05 folds
Bratva4 has 15 seconds left to act
Bratva4 raises to $17.50
***ME*** raises to $26
Bratva4 raises to $40.70, and is all in
***ME*** calls $14.70
Bratva4 shows [Th Ks]
***ME*** shows [Ac Ts]
*** TURN *** [Tc 2h 9d] [5c]
*** RIVER *** [Tc 2h 9d 5c] [3s]
Bratva4 shows a pair of Tens
***ME*** shows a pair of Tens
***ME*** wins the pot ($86.40) with a pair of Tens
Bratva4 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $89.40 | Rake $3
Board: [Tc 2h 9d 5c 3s]
Seat 1: Bratva4 (button) showed [Th Ks] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 2: davidmeiye (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: ***ME*** (big blind) showed [Ac Ts] and won ($86.40) with a pair of Tens
Seat 4: moeilijker didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: JackCadillac didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: blackcadi05 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: StevenSullivan didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: POBEDA08 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: harky12 didn't bet (folded)
Hand 2 is listed as EV $ +23.74
If you go through this hand you can see I made 4 mistakes, I was tilting bad at the time playing worse than usual, I was behind when the money went it and lost the hand so how can it be +23.74??
Does it mean that I lost $55.80 on the hand, but by percentages I would be expected to win $23.74?? if so surely it should be -$23.74
Full Tilt Poker Game #1636453037: Table Rose Park - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:47:51 ET - 2009/11/28
Seat 1: ***ME*** ($140.25)
Seat 2: Niceboy1337 ($20)
Seat 3: GonnaBeBroke ($22.50)
Seat 4: sassmi ($85.80)
Seat 5: Esti Z ($100)
Seat 6: Vivat3 ($21.85)
Seat 7: - iTodd - ($55.80)
Seat 8: ihavetjqka918 ($117.20)
Seat 9: Magico Fabio ($83.15)
ihavetjqka918 posts the small blind of $0.50
Magico Fabio posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ***ME*** [As 2s]
***ME*** calls $1
Niceboy1337 folds
GonnaBeBroke folds
sassmi folds
Esti Z folds
Vivat3 folds
- iTodd - raises to $4.50
ihavetjqka918 has 15 seconds left to act
ihavetjqka918 folds
Magico Fabio folds
***ME*** calls $3.50
*** FLOP *** [5s 8d 4c]
***ME*** checks
- iTodd - bets $10.50
***ME*** raises to $21
- iTodd - raises to $51.30, and is all in
***ME*** calls $30.30
- iTodd - shows [5h 8h]
***ME*** shows [As 2s]
*** TURN *** [5s 8d 4c] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [5s 8d 4c Td] [2h]
- iTodd - shows two pair, Eights and Fives
***ME*** shows a pair of Twos
- iTodd - wins the pot ($110.10) with two pair, Eights and Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $113.10 | Rake $3
Board: [5s 8d 4c Td 2h]
Seat 1: ***ME*** showed [As 2s] and lost with a pair of Twos
Seat 2: Niceboy1337 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: GonnaBeBroke didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: sassmi didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Esti Z didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Vivat3 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: - iTodd - (button) showed [5h 8h] and won ($110.10) with two pair, Eights and Fives
Seat 8: ihavetjqka918 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: Magico Fabio (big blind) folded before the Flop
Basically what I want to know is if over 100k worth of hands my ev is -minus is this bad?
I was just wondering why the hand below is listed as EV $ Diff -$12.39 ?
Could anyone explain the EV to me, I know it's expected value of the hand.. but why is it listed as -minus sometimes when I'm ahead? Most of my sessions are listed as minus EV too, does this mean I suck at poker?
I know the call was lose with top pair top kicker but this player had been pushing all-in with draws previous hands.
Full Tilt Poker Game #17973849645: Table Recco - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:33:57 ET - 2010/01/28
Seat 1: Bratva4 ($42.70)
Seat 2: davidmeiye ($129)
Seat 3: ***ME*** ($60.60)
Seat 4: moeilijker ($100)
Seat 5: JackCadillac ($100)
Seat 6: blackcadi05 ($95.05)
Seat 7: StevenSullivan ($142.05)
Seat 8: POBEDA08 ($100)
Seat 9: harky12 ($196.90)
davidmeiye posts the small blind of $0.50
***ME*** posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ***ME*** [Ac Ts]
moeilijker folds
JackCadillac folds
blackcadi05 calls $1
moeilijker stands up
StevenSullivan folds
POBEDA08 folds
harky12 folds
Bratva4 raises to $2
davidmeiye calls $1.50
MrShame sits down
***ME*** calls $1
blackcadi05 calls $1
MrShame adds $70
*** FLOP *** [Tc 2h 9d]
davidmeiye checks
***ME*** checks
MrShame is feeling angry
blackcadi05 has 15 seconds left to act
blackcadi05 checks
Bratva4 bets $3.50
davidmeiye folds
***ME*** raises to $9
blackcadi05 folds
Bratva4 has 15 seconds left to act
Bratva4 raises to $17.50
***ME*** raises to $26
Bratva4 raises to $40.70, and is all in
***ME*** calls $14.70
Bratva4 shows [Th Ks]
***ME*** shows [Ac Ts]
*** TURN *** [Tc 2h 9d] [5c]
*** RIVER *** [Tc 2h 9d 5c] [3s]
Bratva4 shows a pair of Tens
***ME*** shows a pair of Tens
***ME*** wins the pot ($86.40) with a pair of Tens
Bratva4 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $89.40 | Rake $3
Board: [Tc 2h 9d 5c 3s]
Seat 1: Bratva4 (button) showed [Th Ks] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 2: davidmeiye (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: ***ME*** (big blind) showed [Ac Ts] and won ($86.40) with a pair of Tens
Seat 4: moeilijker didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: JackCadillac didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: blackcadi05 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: StevenSullivan didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: POBEDA08 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: harky12 didn't bet (folded)
Hand 2 is listed as EV $ +23.74
If you go through this hand you can see I made 4 mistakes, I was tilting bad at the time playing worse than usual, I was behind when the money went it and lost the hand so how can it be +23.74??
Does it mean that I lost $55.80 on the hand, but by percentages I would be expected to win $23.74?? if so surely it should be -$23.74
Full Tilt Poker Game #1636453037: Table Rose Park - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 9:47:51 ET - 2009/11/28
Seat 1: ***ME*** ($140.25)
Seat 2: Niceboy1337 ($20)
Seat 3: GonnaBeBroke ($22.50)
Seat 4: sassmi ($85.80)
Seat 5: Esti Z ($100)
Seat 6: Vivat3 ($21.85)
Seat 7: - iTodd - ($55.80)
Seat 8: ihavetjqka918 ($117.20)
Seat 9: Magico Fabio ($83.15)
ihavetjqka918 posts the small blind of $0.50
Magico Fabio posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ***ME*** [As 2s]
***ME*** calls $1
Niceboy1337 folds
GonnaBeBroke folds
sassmi folds
Esti Z folds
Vivat3 folds
- iTodd - raises to $4.50
ihavetjqka918 has 15 seconds left to act
ihavetjqka918 folds
Magico Fabio folds
***ME*** calls $3.50
*** FLOP *** [5s 8d 4c]
***ME*** checks
- iTodd - bets $10.50
***ME*** raises to $21
- iTodd - raises to $51.30, and is all in
***ME*** calls $30.30
- iTodd - shows [5h 8h]
***ME*** shows [As 2s]
*** TURN *** [5s 8d 4c] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [5s 8d 4c Td] [2h]
- iTodd - shows two pair, Eights and Fives
***ME*** shows a pair of Twos
- iTodd - wins the pot ($110.10) with two pair, Eights and Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $113.10 | Rake $3
Board: [5s 8d 4c Td 2h]
Seat 1: ***ME*** showed [As 2s] and lost with a pair of Twos
Seat 2: Niceboy1337 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: GonnaBeBroke didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: sassmi didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Esti Z didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Vivat3 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: - iTodd - (button) showed [5h 8h] and won ($110.10) with two pair, Eights and Fives
Seat 8: ihavetjqka918 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: Magico Fabio (big blind) folded before the Flop
Basically what I want to know is if over 100k worth of hands my ev is -minus is this bad?