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AceOnUrFace
01-08-2010, 06:22 AM
So this hand occured to me. I have understood that if 95% of the money is in it is calculated as "all-in" ev wise. How ever in this hand it is not the case and hands like these makes o huge error in calcs imho. Or am I wrong again?
edit.
Im so sorry to post the wrong hand. I attached the right one.

Patvs
01-08-2010, 08:33 AM
So this hand occured to me. I have understood that if 95% of the money is in it is calculated as "all-in" ev wise. How ever in this hand it is not the case and hands like these makes o huge error in calcs imho. Or am I wrong again?


You posted a hand where your folded preflop!
EV is calculated when an allin situation takes place. Most common situation:
-preflop allin
-allin on the flop/turn
.. where either you have your opponent covered (in chips or vice versa.

AceOnUrFace
01-10-2010, 11:12 AM
Edited the correct hh

Patvs
01-12-2010, 01:32 PM
The money goes allin on the river. The fact that it's only $0.90 of an already $156.00 pot is irrelevant.

So the money goes allin when you're already drawing dead.
So your winnings and your EV for this hand are the same.

pototter
01-12-2010, 06:22 PM
I wondered about this often. Am I missing something or would it not be easy to calculate the ev of all streets after the hand and adjust it at least in regards of the hands that are shown when all in? It's brutal to get a villain to commit almost his entire stack and get outdrawn on the river and have the ev graph suck.

Patvs
01-12-2010, 06:28 PM
This situation sucks for your EV line.

It will be fixed in the "EV by street" which will be in an upcoming HEM update.
But it might take a few months, as it's rather difficult to program this.

pototter
01-13-2010, 09:30 AM
Nice to hear that, keep up the good work! :)

I'm sure that this feature will be welcomed by many other ev-graph junkies, too.