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roggo
01-03-2010, 01:59 PM
Hi!

I have noticed fairly often that the omaha manager shows that my win % is 50 and villains also 50 when they or I am drawing dead.

For example this HandHistory shows EVs 50/50 on the turn and he is drawing dead, and as such screws my allin ev graph. Site is Entraction network.

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Game # 1518638583 - Omaha High Pot Limit EUR 0.10/0.20 - Table "Sakai"

Players(max 6):
jusievan (EUR 22.54 in seat 1)
Liiuhis (EUR 20.66 in seat 2)
JanBlik (EUR 19.46 in seat 3)
Mexicola (EUR 35.70 in seat 4)
Naqoyqatsi (EUR 38.83 in seat 5)
Bruahuaha (EUR 19.82 in seat 6)

Dealer: Bruahuaha
Small Blind: jusievan (0.10)
Big Blind: Liiuhis (0.20)

Naqoyqatsi was dealt: 9d - Tc - 4d - 5c

JanBlik Fold
Mexicola Fold
Naqoyqatsi Raise (0.70)
Bruahuaha Fold
jusievan Call (0.60)
Liiuhis Call (0.50)

Flop 2s - 4s - 5h

jusievan Check
Liiuhis Bet (2.10)
Naqoyqatsi Call (2.10)
jusievan Call (2.10)

Turn 2s - 4s - 5h - 5s

jusievan Check
Liiuhis Check
Naqoyqatsi Bet (6.20)
jusievan Fold
Liiuhis All-In (17.86)
Naqoyqatsi Call (11.66)

River 2s - 4s - 5h - 5s - Th

Liiuhis shows: 3d - As - 4c - 9s (a flush, Ace high)
Naqoyqatsi shows: 9d - Tc - 4d - 5c (a full house, Fives full of Tens)

Naqoyqatsi wins: EUR 41.92 (with a full house, Fives full of Tens)
Rake: EUR 2.20

Game ended 2010-01-03 19:27:35 EET

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Any ideas?

fozzy71
01-03-2010, 04:36 PM
Can you please attach or email, the original hand history file.

roggo
01-03-2010, 05:22 PM
The file is attached. I also found today on other hand where I had quads and the other had a flush and no redraw, but still HEM showed his EV as 20%... I attached a screenshot of this as well.

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Game # 1518291138 - Omaha High Pot Limit EUR 0.05/0.10 - Table "Utsunomiya"

Players(max 6):
joukkari (EUR 2.34 in seat 1)
Naqoyqatsi (EUR 10.00 in seat 2)
jiihoo69 (EUR 8.42 in seat 3)
_FURIASWE_ (EUR 9.90 in seat 4)
HanBanJan (EUR 10.00 in seat 5)
Lindeeni (EUR 62.34 in seat 6)

Dealer: Naqoyqatsi
Small Blind: jiihoo69 (0.05)
Big Blind: _FURIASWE_ (0.10)

Naqoyqatsi was dealt: Kh - Ts - Ks - 3s

HanBanJan Fold
Lindeeni Raise (0.35)
joukkari Call (0.35)
Naqoyqatsi Call (0.35)
jiihoo69 Fold
_FURIASWE_ Call (0.25)

Flop 8c - 3c - Kc

_FURIASWE_ Check
Lindeeni Check
joukkari Check
Naqoyqatsi Bet (1.00)
_FURIASWE_ Call (1.00)
Lindeeni Fold
joukkari Fold

Turn 8c - 3c - Kc - Kd

_FURIASWE_ Check
Naqoyqatsi Bet (3.00)
_FURIASWE_ All-In (8.55)
Naqoyqatsi Call (5.55)

River 8c - 3c - Kc - Kd - 7s

_FURIASWE_ shows: Tc - Ah - 4c - Ac (a flush, Ace high)
Naqoyqatsi shows: Kh - Ts - Ks - 3s (four of a kind, Kings)

Naqoyqatsi wins: EUR 19.55 (with four of a kind, Kings)
Rake: EUR 1.00

Game ended 2010-01-03 15:46:51 EET

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Is this a bug in Omaha?

fozzy71
01-03-2010, 06:46 PM
The hand you attached seemed to import fine for me. It shows you with 100% Equity on the turn.

Please update to the latest beta - http://www.holdemmanager.net/hmbetaupdate


*Try creating a new UTF DB - http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=146
*Now import a small portion of your \HMArchive so you can see if the problem exists in the new DB - http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=173
*If the new DB seems to work properly, you will want to import the rest of your archives to the new DB, export/import the hands from the old DB to the new DB, and export/import any player notes and tourney summaries - and then delete the old DB. - http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=21

Make sure you export/backup everything before deleting the old DB - http://www.holdemmanager.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20754

roggo
01-04-2010, 06:00 AM
Thanks!

It seems to work now with the new DB. I will post here again if this problem arises. It could be a problem only with auto-import?

fozzy71
01-04-2010, 08:17 PM
Thanks!

It seems to work now with the new DB. I will post here again if this problem arises. It could be a problem only with auto-import?

It was a problem with the DB for some reason. Manual or Auto Import shouldnt matter.