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guitarizt
12-01-2009, 06:31 AM
AMD X2 Dual Core 4000+ (2.10 GHz)
4gb ram
Sata HDD
Nvidia GeForce 8600gt

I one table stack. I can do 22 tables with no problem, but when I hit 25-27 tables the tables get sluggish sometimes and 30-33 tables it crashes frequently. When I turn off the hud I don't have problems.

Would getting a better video card help or would I be better just waiting for a new quadcore computer? I'd like to be able to 40 table with hud but I'd probably be mostly 32 tabling.

I did all the normal stuff in the options like sliding the opacity slider and the other one all the way to the right. I'm just using hands/vpip/pfr/af on one panel.

_Loki_
12-01-2009, 11:03 AM
Hi -

Your PC should be fine, but how big is your Database ? What OS ?

I can't help with the DB side, but the below 2+2 site post & the BLACK VIPER site helped me a lot

** Read particularly posts 1 & 6:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/48/computer-technical-help/netbook-hem-hud-20-stars-tables-551844/

** Read all the posts here (same post as above, but page 2) & try some of these ideas
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/48/computer-technical-help/netbook-hem-hud-20-stars-tables-551844/index2.html

** On BLACK VIPER go to the page & section that deals with your OS & sort out your MS Services
http://www.blackviper.com/WIN2K/servicecfg.htm
http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm
http://www.blackviper.com/WinXPx64/servicecfg.htm
http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/servicecfg.htm
http://www.blackviper.com/Win_2008_R2/servicecfg.htm
http://www.blackviper.com/Windows_7/servicecfg.htm

Hope this helps :)

fozzy71
12-01-2009, 12:19 PM
AMD X2 Dual Core 4000+ (2.10 GHz)
4gb ram
Sata HDD
Nvidia GeForce 8600gt

I one table stack. I can do 22 tables with no problem, but when I hit 25-27 tables the tables get sluggish sometimes and 30-33 tables it crashes frequently. When I turn off the hud I don't have problems.

It may help if you could reproduce the crash with logging on, but I am not sure if you want to crash it on purpose when 30 tabling your normal games

Enable logging from the HUD options->Table prefs menu. When the crash happens again, go to the logs\log.txt file and move it to another location before you restart the hud. I want to get the 'crash' log.txt file after you finish playing. If you restart the hud before moving the log.txt file, it is overwritten.

Please email them to mike@holdemmanager.net, with a link to this thread.



Would getting a better video card help or would I be better just waiting for a new quadcore computer? I'd like to be able to 40 table with hud but I'd probably be mostly 32 tabling.

I did all the normal stuff in the options like sliding the opacity slider and the other one all the way to the right. I'm just using hands/vpip/pfr/af on one panel.

Post screen shots of the task manager when mass-tabling - http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/general/ht/winscreenshot.htm

Can you sort it by CPU use and Memory use, and take a pic of each. Also the Performance tab of the task manager.

To attach it to a thread in the forums, look below the post reply button when you start a new thread and you'll see a manage attachments button. Click this and attach the file.



Did you perform the standard DB performance tips also?

I would suggest you do the majority of the things in this thread: http://www.holdemmanager.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11194

Some of the most important things, imo:

- Remove the WinnerName, WinnerCards and WinnerWon from the Options > Hands View Column Selector
- Turning off logging and deleting existing logs
- Vacuum/Full/Analyze, then Reindex - http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=163
- Defrag last and make sure you stop the postgresql service before you defrag. I personally use Smart Defrag.
- Do a Cold Boot (Shut Down > Start) before you use HM again

guitarizt
12-01-2009, 10:51 PM
I think it's the stars client that crashes actually. Usually my cpu peaks around 80% which rarely happens, and it's usually more around 40%. The ram is about 50%.

I just played a set of 45 tables without lag. I added exceptions the hh folders, hem, and postgres to my anti-virus. I vacuum/analyzed/reindexed my db and cleared up another 150+gb of space on my hdd and defragged it some. Then I just rebooted and started playing without opening anything else up.

And I feel stupid but I stopped torrenting while playing which I think was probably the biggest detriment. I didn't even really think about it until someone mentioned he was having problems until he started running his database off another partition.

Thanks for all the help. I searched 2+2 but didn't see that thread about the guy 20 tabling on his netbook. I'll have to turn off more services and stuff on my pc and I need to get my dual core laptop working right since I can only 12 table on there right now.

_Loki_
12-02-2009, 01:12 AM
I searched 2+2 but didn't see that thread about the guy 20 tabling on his netbook. I'll have to turn off more services and stuff on my pc and I need to get my dual core laptop working right since I can only 12 table on there right now.

Strange - There was nothing wrong with the link for "Netbook + HEM + HUD + 20 Stars Tables":
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/48/computer-technical-help/netbook-hem-hud-20-stars-tables-551844/

I only like to play 3 or 4 tables, but as an experiment I've just tried to see what the maximum is for my system while running HEM & I got up to 16 tables. That did my head in from a play point-of-view & I gave up at 16, but I wasn't getting crashes or lag

I'm playing on a laptop with one 3.06GHZ CPU & 500Mb RAM
I'm running XP, IE8, PokerStars, HEM + HUD & absolutely nothing else
I have no worries about viruses etc because I don't visit unknown sites on this laptop & I'm well backed up
I have another laptop for non-poker & to backup my DB
I have only been playing on-line 5 months & I don't buy hands
I have just moved up a stake so I moved the old stakes to a different DB & created a new DB for my current stakes (OK - only 45k hands so far)

I'm convinced that my sytem is running so smooth because I have...

A] no Antivirus prog
B] set the vast majority of the Windows "services" to MANUAL or DISABLED - (depending - I used the advice in BLACK VIPER) - In particular I've DISABLED Indexing Service & Restore Service
C] disabled Themes & unnecessary startup items
D] disabled animation, sound, and player images in the PokerStars client
E] kept a small "tight" DB
F] followed the other performance tips mentioned by Fozzy & Co

My particular bottleneck is a Stone age 56kbps connection !!

You lot talk about SSD's etc - I just want broadband :)

guitarizt
12-02-2009, 05:26 AM
I saw the link to the netbook I just mean I just didn't see it myself before I read this thread.

Yeah I'm pretty lazy and if I had more space and money then next year I would definitely get a computer to dedicate specifically for poker.

After reading that netbook thread I'm guessing the bottleneck for me would the hard drive. If I get ancy I'll get another hard drive and run my caviar black drives in raid0. Maybe a ssd drive.