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mksteele99
11-27-2009, 06:59 AM
I'm working at redoing my Popup, what does this mean:

Fold_vs_3b.EP.ip

Fold_vs_3b.EP.blind

EP=UTG so the only time they can be in position is versus a 3B from the blinds??? Really confused

mksteele99
11-27-2009, 08:02 AM
Also have questions about these stats that aren't in the FAQ:

CB 3B flop CB vs. Raise
CB 3B turn CB vs Raise

Is this how often someonw CB and double barrels in a 3B pot?

netsrak
11-27-2009, 08:36 AM
Please check this: http://forums.holdemmanager.com/showthread.php?t=10810&highlight=fold_vs

mksteele99
11-27-2009, 03:19 PM
Please check this: http://forums.holdemmanager.com/showthread.php?t=10810&highlight=fold_vs

So they are the same thing? That is pretty retarded? Is there a stat to tell you how often they fold when they are OOP?

Also, my 2nd post wasn't covered in that post.

mksteele99
11-27-2009, 03:55 PM
I'm working at redoing my Popup, what does this mean:

Fold_vs_3b.EP.ip

Fold_vs_3b.EP.blind

EP=UTG so the only time they can be in position is versus a 3B from the blinds??? Really confused

Hey, the FAQ said that fold_vs_3b.EP.ip and blind are the same stat. I put them both in my popup and they aren't. They have different numbers and sample sizes.

Over a huge sample ip is 68% and sb is 58%. So what do these numbers mean?

mksteele99
11-28-2009, 01:55 AM
Seriously, no answer???????????

netsrak
11-28-2009, 07:19 AM
Please check the formulas for the stats: http://forums.holdemmanager.com/showthread.php?t=3595

mksteele99
11-28-2009, 06:15 PM
<Stat GroupName="3Bet" ColumnName="BTNRaise3Bet" ValueExpressions="sum(case when ph.PositionType_ID=5 and ph.preflopaction_ID in (0,1,2) and didPFR=true then 1 else 0 end) as ButtonRaise;sum(case when ph.PositionType_ID=5 and ph.preflopaction_ID in (0,1,2) and didPFR=true and ph.PreflopPlayerActionType_ID <> 88 then 1 else 0 end) as ButtonRaise3Bet" Evaluate="ButtonRaise3Bet*100.0/ButtonRaise" ColumnHeader="Button\nRaise\nwas 3Bet" ColumnFormat="0.0" ColumnWidth="61" Tooltip="Pct of time player is 3bet when raising from the Button preflop" />

This doesn't make any sense... according to the "tooltip" this stat tells you how often a player has been 3B when HE opened on the button? Why would I need that stat?

Shouldn't this be how often a player 3B an open from the button?

mksteele99
11-28-2009, 06:29 PM
Please check this: http://forums.holdemmanager.com/showthread.php?t=10810&highlight=fold_vs

Ok... I just wasted a lot of time looking through the whole thing TWICE. The stats are not in there or I just can't find it. Why did you post a link to that thread? If it is in there please post it here because I couldn't find it. My time is worth $170/hour and I wasted 35 minutes looking through that thread under the belief that it was in there since you posted a link.

netsrak
11-29-2009, 09:08 AM
Sorry, i don't know every stat in detail, i hoped it was in there. We forwarded the thread to the developers for a more qualified answer.

Rvg72
11-29-2009, 05:43 PM
I'm working at redoing my Popup, what does this mean:

Fold_vs_3b.EP.ip

Fold_vs_3b.EP.blind

EP=UTG so the only time they can be in position is versus a 3B from the blinds??? Really confused

These stats show how often you fold vs a 3bet when you are in EP when you are facing a three better who is in position or, with the second stat, from a three better in the blinds.

Roy

mksteele99
12-02-2009, 07:56 PM
Sorry for going off earlier. Just got really frustrated searching that thread for a long time and not finding anything.

So the first stat shows how often a person folds to a 3B when he is OOP? In this case, he is in EP and the 3B is in the CO or BTN.