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aapkoko
11-15-2009, 11:45 AM
Hi,

I just played a few HU SNG's (normally not my game), and i noticed
that my hud displayed different values then when i search the players
stats in the Manager ( tab players->tourneys ).

The number of hands is equal in both cases. (all vs players that i have
never played before, so it's not that i have played vs them in other situations
and the hud only displays the HU stats.)

Ok, the HUD does display the correct stats, but when i check the stats
of my opponents in the manager, VPIP en PFR are much lower (about 20-30% lower).

How can this be?

fozzy71
11-15-2009, 11:56 AM
Please update to the latest version - http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/HmUpdate.exe

What report tab are you looking at? Do you have any HUD Options > Additional HUD Filters set?

What does it show in the HUD Options > Launch Active Player Details Window?

Can you reproduce the problem and post screen shots of the table/hud, the manager reports window, and perhaps the active player details window?

aapkoko
11-15-2009, 12:05 PM
Please update to the latest version - http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/HmUpdate.exe

What report tab are you looking at? Do you have any HUD Options > Additional HUD Filters set?

What does it show in the HUD Options > Launch Active Player Details Window?

Can you reproduce the problem and post screen shots of the table/hud, the manager reports window, and perhaps the active player details window?
http://i33.tinypic.com/317b7v8.jpg

1. When i look in the active player details, it says the same as in the manager.

2. i dont have any other hud filters set

The picture is from a 9max sit and go. Most players stats are ok, but one players stats is not. When i play HU then my opponents stats always differ from the ones in the HUD.

I will update my HM, and try again.

aapkoko
11-15-2009, 12:10 PM
updated HM. same problem.

aapkoko
11-15-2009, 12:18 PM
played another HU SNG.

screenshot below: Stats: Vpip/Pfr

http://i38.tinypic.com/2z5vvi8.jpg

The HUD stats were again correct ( vilain played every hand..so 100% is ok..but the manager only displays
an vpip of 60)

aapkoko
11-15-2009, 03:04 PM
fozzy?

fozzy71
11-15-2009, 04:37 PM
I have forwarded this thread to the developer for a reply.

Mike chops
11-15-2009, 10:44 PM
If you play heads up, I'd guess it has something to do with hands folded to the big blind. The hud doesn't count them as hands in the VPIP%, but the manager does.

aapkoko
11-16-2009, 06:24 AM
If you play heads up, I'd guess it has something to do with hands folded to the big blind. The hud doesn't count them as hands in the VPIP%, but the manager does.

yeaj figured that. but isn't that weird? why the difference?

if a player plays 100% of the hands, i think it is weird for the manager
to display a vpip of 60% for that player, wouldn't you?

Mike chops
11-16-2009, 03:50 PM
It's probably because that's the way PT2 did it. We didn't want to deal with 1000s of "why is my vpip 21.2% in PT2 but 21.4% in HEM".

I wouldn't look at VPIP anyway if I were playing heads up. You do better separating the stats by position. I'd also exclude heads up hands from tables with more than 2 players.