View Full Version : VPIP/PFR ratio for autorate

03-12-2012, 03:35 PM
Might just be missing it, but is it possible to use a VPIP/PFR ratio stat as an autorate criterion? Not seeing it under the individual stats in the VPIP or the PFR categories. Thanks!

03-12-2012, 07:42 PM
This is a feature which is on the list to address. While I do not have a specific date for when this feature might be added, we are putting out updates regularly.

The assigned internal ticket # on this issue is hm-2365. We will often release builds on a limited basis, only in the forums for a few days first, so please check back on this thread http://forums.holdemmanager.com/hm2-releases/ for that ticket #.

03-13-2012, 12:54 AM
Thanks. Hope it gets addressed some point. Would be kinda nice. Cheers.

04-26-2012, 07:53 AM
Interesting point made by ChicagoRy, HUSNG HUDs, Minimalism, Ratios - Heads Up SNG -- Two Plus Two Poker Forums (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/185/heads-up-sng/husng-huds-minimalism-ratios-1197177/)

Potential problem with VPIP/PFR stat: You're missing open fold %, which is an important thing to consider (and you can see it when looking at VPIP alone, but if it's just a ratio with PFR you won't see it).

You face an opponent with 90% VPIP, 30% PFR. You'd have a 2-1 limp to raise ratio.
If you face a 60% VPIP, 20% PFR opponent, you'd also have a 2-1 limp to raise ratio.
However, in the second situation, your opponent is open folding 40% of hands. This drastically changes the strength of the opponent's limping range in particular.

The same even applies to 30/10, obviously, and I see his point. I always wondered why we didn't have it, I'm now wondering how useful it would be?
Perhaps it might be interesting to see it as a positional stat/chart, he is talking from a HU perspective after all.

Hmm I dunno, discuss!