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DrGonzo
02-15-2012, 06:14 AM
Hello everybody.
I'm using HEM 2 on partypoker where I play cash game on NL4.
After 37k hands I was concerned about my red line graph. So I decided to check my stats, and I found something that I cannot explain.

Here some hands of my database:

1. With AA I went allin preflop vs AK
HEM hand stats:
$: 1,68
Equity: 93,2%
$EV Diff: -0.21


The equity calculation seems to be correct. The $EV Diff is instead completely wrong: whit this equity my average winnings should be: 92,2 % (1.68$) = 1.57$ with a $EV Diff of 1.57 - 1.68 = -0.11

2. With KK I went allin preflop vx KJs
HEM stats:
$: 0.94
Equity: 85,7
$EV Diff: -0.28

Again: equity correct. $EV should be 0,81 and $EV Diff -0.14.

And so on for every time I went allin preflop or postflop. It looks to me like there is a big mistake in the $EV calculation: the $EV Diff calculated by HEM software seems to be twice as much as it should be. Thereby the red line graph is completely wrong.

Any ideas?
Thank you!

Mr. Peek
02-15-2012, 11:22 AM
The formula that you use for getting $EV Diff is wrong. The correct way is:

If you won -> $EV Diff = (2$)(Equity/100) - 2$
If you lost -> $EV Diff = - (2$)(Equity/100)

Note: $ must have its sign.

QuadDamaged
03-25-2012, 03:25 AM
The formula that you use for getting $EV Diff is wrong. The correct way is:

If you won -> $EV Diff = (2$)(Equity/100) - 2$
If you lost -> $EV Diff = - (2$)(Equity/100)

Note: $ must have its sign.
Please read carefully the original post. If you use your formula and the sum invested in the original post i.e. $: 1,68 you will find that you reach the same result. => - .11 $Ev diff


I find that the EV formula is wrong myself
QQ vs AJ on flop 78T, i have 78% Eq and i invest 26,22$ all in on this flop and i got called.
I wond the hand and my HEM2 says i have -17,02$ EV diff

ANy ideas please ? I had 103 bb deep with the villain

Thanks
qd

Patvs
03-26-2012, 10:48 PM
The EV is calculated from the street the money goes in.
It's irrelevent if you had more equity on an earlier street.


Read: http://forums.holdemmanager.com/manager-general/24059-ev-not-all-situations.html

Mr. Peek
03-26-2012, 11:52 PM
Please read carefully the original post. If you use your formula and the sum invested in the original post i.e. $: 1,68 you will find that you reach the same result. => - .11 $Ev diff

You're wrong.

He won the hand, then:
$EV Diff = (2$)(Equity/100) - 2$
$EV Diff = (2*1.68)(93.2/100) - (2*1.68)
$EV Diff = -0.22848

PD: you didn't multiply $ by 2.