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DamnedToWin
10-02-2009, 08:33 PM
1) What version of Holdem Manager are you using?
1.09 beta 34


If you don't have the latest version, go to the releases forum and download the newest version and relaunch the HUD to see if the problem still exists

2) a. What poker site are you playing on and does the problem occur on more than one site?
PartyPoker, PokerStars, Full Tilt, Titan, BWin, Cake, PKR, RPM,TowerGaming
currently facing the problems on PokerStars


b. Which type of game(s) are you playing? NL, FL, Omaha, SnGs, MTT
NLHE (Ring, SnG, MTT)
currently facing the problems on SnGs @ PS


c. Have you clicked on the Start Auto Import button?yes


3) Often times, it is one setting or one box that has not been selected that causes the problem. Please see our detailed FAQs on configuring Holdem Manager to work with select poker sites to make sure that your HUD is set up properly for your selected poker site.
done


4) Check to see if the hand histories are showing up in the correct folder.

In Holdem Manager, navigate to Options > Configure Auto Import Folders and verify that the location of the folder Holdem Manager checks for is the hand histories folder of your poker client.

While playing, go to that folder on your PC and see if new hand histories that correspond to the tables your playing at are showing up. This is not relevant where the site uses a database like on Ongame or Prima.

If you can see the hand histories, right-click on the hand history, choose Properties and you should see the location of the hand history. Please highlight that location and copy and paste that location into the answer. This can be done by highlighting the text by holding down the left mouse button while highlighting the text and then right-clicking while the text is highlighted and choosing copy and then paste it into the forum.

Checked that importing is working. For all sites there are files/databases in the archive folder configured under "Configure Auto Import" and for all but the one SnG I'm playing right now there are no files/databases in the folders configured for all the sites. Current games history found with properties "C:\Programme\PokerStars\HandHistory\DamnedToWin\HH 20091002 T200397630 No Limit Hold'em $10 + $1.txt"


4) If the hand histories are not showing up in the folder, then go back to the FAQ, as they should show you how to check the settings in the lobby to configure the poker site to save the Hand History and make sure its sending the Hand Histories to the correct location. Contact your poker site if your unsure to find out where you can set the location of the hand histories to save to.
not relevant since histories showing up


5) So by now you should have confirmed in answering each question that you have setup the folders correctly and the hands are appearing in the correct folder.

Are the hands being imported into Holdem Manager? Test this by playing a couple of hands and then going to the Reports tab in Holdem Manager. Navigate to Filter > Clear and for the date filter choose today. Do the hands that you just played import successfully?

importing works fine


5a) If the hand histories show up in the auto import folders, but they're not importing into the database, please create a new database and try importing some hands to test if it's a corrupt database.

not relevant


6) Have you tried the Table Finder and did it work?

not tried


7) If you open the hand history files, are they written in English? Note that they should be. If you have problems with SnGs and/or MTTs please try it with the english client of your pokersite.

histories are in english


8) Make sure UAC is disabled and unselect it and restart if it is.

understood this is only relevant for Vista, I'm running XP


9) Please attach your holdemmanager.config file from C:\Program Files\RVG Software\Holdem Manager\Config folder.

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Please reproduce the problem and post a screen shot - http://graphicssoft.about.com/cs/general/ht/winscreenshot.htm

with the following:

1) The table manager

Table Manager.bmp


2) The tables (including one with no stats)

PS_SnG.zip


3) The "importing\hud data" folder

Importing_HUDData.zip


4) The ...handhistory\screenname folder.

dont know which folder is meant, here the HEM folder tree (HEM_Tree.zip)

fozzy71
10-02-2009, 11:33 PM
History not used, stats starting new with each new table

Your own history? Or the HUD stats of opponents?



HM is designed to only show your session stats at that table as we felt it was alot more useful for a couple of reasons:
1) A lot of people will have a huge amount of stats on themselves so it saves lagging issues having to show these for yourself
2) A lot of regulars are very aware of their stats and when youve alot of stats accumulated it would take a huge swing just for 1 stat to change since you've such a big sample and so there not very useful
3) Its much more beneficial to see your session stats to get an idea of how aggressive or passive people will see you since you sat at that table. (again even if its against a reg youll know yourself your overall image or at least you should)
4) You can easily check your overall stats in the reports section to remind any stats but again most people know their stats pretty well.

DamnedToWin
10-02-2009, 11:50 PM
I'm fine with that. Indeed I've on PS only almost 100.000 hands. Session would be fine. But if after finishing one table I'm playing another one without quitting either PS or HEM, thats not. I dont necessarily need my own stats in the HUD but so I can see that its not even summarizing a whole session.

The other day I played a MTT. Whenever I was moved to another table all stats began from scratch.

Overall I'm only interested in all opponents stats.

fozzy71
10-02-2009, 11:53 PM
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The other day I played a MTT. Whenever I was moved to another table all stats began from scratch.......

That is the way the HMHUD works currently. If you get moved toa new table, the majority of the players at the new table will be new to you this tournament. Your HUD stats wills tart over so you can know your table image and how other new players may view your image.

The Minder
10-03-2009, 09:43 PM
That is the way the HMHUD works currently. If you get moved toa new table, the majority of the players at the new table will be new to you this tournament. Your HUD stats wills tart over so you can know your table image and how other new players may view your image.

And if you stay at the same table and 6 new people come in your HUD stats do NOT reset to zero.

And if you're in a small SNG and you and your current opponents go to a new table, you will lose your 'perception' of your table image.

And you have no ability to track your 'image' through the various stages of an MTT

Fozzy, the RVG reasoning for Hero stats reset is based on cash game philosophy. Does not apply to MTT/STT.

fozzy71
10-03-2009, 10:30 PM
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Fozzy, the RVG reasoning for Hero stats reset is based on cash game philosophy. Does not apply to MTT/STT.

I dont think I was replying to, or arguing with, you in my post that you quoted. I was answering a very basic question by a new poster, in a very basic manner. In fact you had not yet posted in this thread.

I don't really see why it was necessary for you to come into this thread and dissect my post. This has been discussed in other threads recently and I don't think I really disagreed with your rationale in that thread. I had posted the status quo reply about hero hud and you had ripped apart my post, IIRC. I dont play tourneys so I couldnt/wouldnt debate this with you, in that thread or this thread. I defer that type of discussion to Roy. My job is basic forum tech support, not discussing the rationale/theory of the developer's decisions.

XaQ Morphy
11-07-2009, 11:20 PM
That is the way the HMHUD works currently. If you get moved toa new table, the majority of the players at the new table will be new to you this tournament. Your HUD stats wills tart over so you can know your table image and how other new players may view your image.

I'll try replying here before posting a new thread. I just bought HEM after giving it a try and finding some of the features much better than PT.

I gave it a test drive last night in a 180 person SNG last night, and noticed that every time I got moved to a new table, all stats for all players would reset. It wouldn't matter if a player moved with me, or if I showed up at a table that had a player I had several hands against, all stats would reset to 0.

After reading this thread it seems like this is by design?

I think we've all seen weird table moves on Stars/FullTilt where you move tables and a few hands later get moved back to the same table you were on. In this case, the stats would reset each time.

Last night I was on one guy's table and gathered maybe 35 hands against him, then moved tables. 20 mins later I was moved to another table where he was, and the HUD stats reset.

Is this truly by design? For the record, PT doesn't do this...it tracks hands not only per tourney but overall lifetime in the HUD.

Please advise, this is a pretty big issue for me right now and doesn't seem very intuitive if it's by design. Thanks,

Morphy

netsrak
11-08-2009, 07:48 AM
I'll forward this for a detailled answer by the developers.

Rvg72
11-08-2009, 01:37 PM
I'll try replying here before posting a new thread. I just bought HEM after giving it a try and finding some of the features much better than PT.

I gave it a test drive last night in a 180 person SNG last night, and noticed that every time I got moved to a new table, all stats for all players would reset. It wouldn't matter if a player moved with me, or if I showed up at a table that had a player I had several hands against, all stats would reset to 0.

After reading this thread it seems like this is by design?

I think we've all seen weird table moves on Stars/FullTilt where you move tables and a few hands later get moved back to the same table you were on. In this case, the stats would reset each time.

Last night I was on one guy's table and gathered maybe 35 hands against him, then moved tables. 20 mins later I was moved to another table where he was, and the HUD stats reset.

Is this truly by design? For the record, PT doesn't do this...it tracks hands not only per tourney but overall lifetime in the HUD.

Please advise, this is a pretty big issue for me right now and doesn't seem very intuitive if it's by design. Thanks,

Morphy

Hi, session stats get changed each time you move tables both for yourself and other players however by default the hud shows all stats (except any filtered out) for all other players. I suspect you have some "# players remaining" filters in HUD Options - Filters if other players stats are resetting

Roy

XaQ Morphy
11-08-2009, 09:54 PM
Hi, session stats get changed each time you move tables both for yourself and other players however by default the hud shows all stats (except any filtered out) for all other players. I suspect you have some "# players remaining" filters in HUD Options - Filters if other players stats are resetting

Roy

Hi thanks for the reply. 2 nights ago I'm 100% positive that all villain stats reset when I moved tables. Last night, everything worked as expected, with no configuration changes. As of right now I'm considering this issue resolved, but if it comes back I'll be sure to post again. Thanks,

Morphy