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Olaf
12-26-2011, 10:36 AM
I post this in http://assaultwareforums.com, but apparently the creators of the program rarely go there.

4Bet sizing VS player!

In my definition i want to know how a player plays his hands when call enemy 4B preflop. BUT, it should not be MINI 4Bet like 3 > 10 > 4Bet 17, but something like 3 > 10 > 25.

How i can аrrange this sample, if in Preflop > "Previous action" there are only Manual open Raise and Reraise?

Please, help

sreticentv
12-26-2011, 12:24 PM
Sorry, I thought that one had been answered for some reason

Manual reraise sizing also covers 4 bets but you need to use it in conjunction with previous pre flop actions and the "didn't happen" flag (to rule out a 5 bet). This is one of the more complex things to script in NoteCaddy so if you paste 2-3 hands I would make an example for you.

Olaf
12-26-2011, 02:02 PM
Sorry, I thought that one had been answered for some reason

Manual reraise sizing also covers 4 bets but you need to use it in conjunction with previous pre flop actions and the "didn't happen" flag (to rule out a 5 bet). This is one of the more complex things to script in NoteCaddy so if you paste 2-3 hands I would make an example for you.


Ty!

I want to make definition, how the player HateMeeAgain behaves, when call PF 4Bet.

But call only 4Bets with "normal: size, something like 2x - 3x (which usualy make regular players), and to exclude non-standard (Mini 4Bet etc. ) which usually fishes do.

I understand, how to use "Previous actions" when i want to analize HateMeeAgain 4Bets, but i don't understand how use "Previous action" when i want to exclude some Enemy 4Bets.

Example with normal 4Bet, which i want to analize:


***** History for hand R5-181339608-229 *****
Start hand: Thu Oct 06 08:53:00 GMT-0910 2011
Table: Swerdlowsk [181339608] (NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $0.5/$1, Real money)
Button: seat 3
Players in round: 5
Seat 2: Scuzzzlebutt ($245.40)
Seat 3: HateMeeAgain ($97)
Seat 5: 3BunPass ($99)
Seat 7: Vaitho ($190.78)
Seat 9: Jogy88 ($188.50)
3BunPass posts small blind ($0.50)
Vaitho posts big blind ($1)
---
Dealing pocket cards
Jogy88 folds
Scuzzzlebutt raises $3 to $3
HateMeeAgain raises $10 to $10
3BunPass folds
Vaitho folds
Scuzzzlebutt raises $22 to $25
HateMeeAgain calls $15
--- Dealing flop [7c, 9h, 5c]
Scuzzzlebutt bets $35
HateMeeAgain folds
---
Summary:
Main pot: $51.50 won by Scuzzzlebutt ($48.93)
Seat 2: Scuzzzlebutt ($269.33), net: +$23.93
Seat 3: HateMeeAgain ($72), net: -$25
Seat 5: 3BunPass ($98.5), net: -$0.50
Seat 7: Vaitho ($189.78), net: -$1
Seat 9: Jogy88 ($188.5), net: -$0
***** End of hand R5-181339608-229 *****




Example with mini 4Bet, which i want to exclude:



***** History for hand R5-181201615-134 *****
Start hand: Wed Oct 05 17:03:00 GMT-0910 2011
Table: San Juan [181201615] (NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $0.5/$1, Real money)
Button: seat 1
Players in round: 6
Seat 1: isrealdurrrr ($125.50)
Seat 3: lourk ($188.11)
Seat 4: Emma20_ ($167.60)
Seat 8: ynwalfc96 ($131.40)
Seat 9: HateMeeAgain ($172.68)
Seat 10: RearAdmiral- ($105.79)
lourk posts small blind ($0.50)
Emma20_ posts big blind ($1)
---
Dealing pocket cards
ynwalfc96 raises $2 to $2
HateMeeAgain raises $7 to $7
RearAdmiral- folds
isrealdurrrr folds
lourk folds
Emma20_ folds
ynwalfc96 raises $10 to $12
HateMeeAgain calls $5
--- Dealing flop [Ac, 9d, 2h]
ynwalfc96 checks
HateMeeAgain checks
--- Dealing turn [5s]
ynwalfc96 bets $25.50
HateMeeAgain calls $25.5
--- Dealing river [9s]
ynwalfc96 checks
HateMeeAgain bets $46
ynwalfc96 calls $46
---
Summary:
Main pot: $168.50 won by HateMeeAgain ($165.50)
Seat 1: isrealdurrrr ($125.5), net: -$0
Seat 3: lourk ($187.61), net: -$0.50
Seat 4: Emma20_ ($166.6), net: -$1
Seat 8: ynwalfc96 ($47.9), net: -$83.50, [Jd, Jc]
Seat 9: HateMeeAgain ($254.68), net: +$82, [Qc, As]
Seat 10: RearAdmiral- ($105.79), net: -$0
***** End of hand R5-181201615-134 *****

nilaynilay
12-26-2011, 08:21 PM
I post this in http://assaultwareforums.com, but apparently the creators of the program rarely go there.


To clarify to everyone else there was a break for Christmas. We do read and respond to each and every post on AW

sreticentv
12-27-2011, 09:19 AM
Here is an example I made:

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However, the manual reraise feature is brand new and when used with previous actions didn't work well. The fix for this was just put in but you can always get the newest build via http://www.assaultware.com/NoteCaddy.latest.zip

Copy the files to your hm2 folder

geek
04-22-2012, 04:09 PM
Hi Sreti, when using the CallsNormalFourBet.xml , it does not seem to exclude 4B shoves which are bigger than 3x reraises

Could you check why is that? Here is a hand that is a success and should not be:

----PRIMA.DAT----

<Game id="4181996204" date="2011-11-23 14:14:31" unicodetablename="QgB1AHQAdABvAG4AIAAyADMAIAAtACAArCAyADAAIABNAGEAeA A=" tablename="Button 23 - Ђ20 Max" stakes="0.10|0.20" betlimit="NL" tabletype="Cash Game" gametypeid="1" gametype="Hold&apos;em" realmoney="true" currencysymbol="rCA=" playerseat="2" betamount="0" istournament="0" rake="201">
<Seats>
<Seat num="1" alias="rosario002" unicodealias="cgBvAHMAYQByAGkAbwAwADAAMgA=" balance="7.99" endbalance="7.79"/>
<Seat num="2" alias="HurtMeMore" unicodealias="SAB1AHIAdABNAGUATQBvAHIAZQA=" balance="20.91" endbalance="20.91"/>
<Seat num="3" alias="Daymare" unicodealias="RABhAHkAbQBhAHIAZQA=" balance="20.49" endbalance="0.49"/>
<Seat num="4" alias="Santini_" unicodealias="UwBhAG4AdABpAG4AaQBfAA==" balance="20.00" endbalance="20.00"/>
<Seat num="5" alias="hwaseungOZ" unicodealias="aAB3AGEAcwBlAHUAbgBnAE8AWgA=" balance="20.00" endbalance="38.29" dealer="true"/>
<Seat num="6" alias="Pritcheo1" unicodealias="UAByAGkAdABjAGgAZQBvADEA" balance="12.64" endbalance="12.54"/>
</Seats>
<Gameplay>
<Action seq="1" type="SmallBlind" seat="6" value="0.10"/>
<Action seq="2" type="BigBlind" seat="1" value="0.20"/>
<Action seq="3" type="DealCards" seat="2">
<Card value="5" suit="h" id="43"/>
<Card value="6" suit="h" id="44"/>
</Action>
<Action seq="4" type="Fold" seat="2"/>
<Action seq="5" type="Raise" seat="3" value="1.00"/>
<Action seq="6" type="Fold" seat="4"/>
<Action seq="7" type="Raise" seat="5" value="2.50"/>
<Action seq="8" type="Fold" seat="6"/>
<Action seq="9" type="Fold" seat="1"/>
<Action seq="10" type="AllIn" seat="3" value="19.49"/>
<Action seq="11" type="AllIn" seat="5" value="17.50"/>
<Action seq="12" type="DealFlop">
<Card value="Q" suit="d" id="37"/>
<Card value="Q" suit="s" id="11"/>
<Card value="9" suit="d" id="34"/>
</Action>
<Action seq="13" type="DealTurn">
<Card value="8" suit="s" id="7"/>
</Action>
<Action seq="14" type="DealRiver">
<Card value="2" suit="h" id="40"/>
</Action>
<Action seq="15" type="ShowCards" seat="3">
<Card value="K" suit="h" id="51"/>
<Card value="K" suit="s" id="12"/>
</Action>
<Action seq="16" type="ShowCards" seat="5">
<Card value="Q" suit="h" id="50"/>
<Card value="Q" suit="c" id="24"/>
</Action>
<Action type="Win">
<Seat num="5" amount="38.29" pot="0" type="" lowhandwin="0"/>
</Action>
</Gameplay>
</Game>

sreticentv
04-23-2012, 06:34 AM
That example needs everything except the two 4bet options unchecked in the "Normal4Bet" previous preflop action

geek
04-23-2012, 07:04 AM
Thanks for the prompt answer and indeed that corrects the issue. If it is not too much to ask, could you clarify what this slight correction changes in terms of logic so to make the definition work as expected. What I mean is, that I do not understand the difference between having all actions checked and unchecked when using manual reraise. So i feel in a gray area when using manual bets and reraises as to what needs to be checked or unchecked.