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Sentient
08-17-2009, 01:25 PM
I have a hand where I 3bet pre as a favorite and go all in as a favorite on the flop. Remaining two players check it down and I lose. When I look at this hand in a session review HEM says that the EV$Diff is $0. IOW my expectation was to always lose (hah, I thought players were supposed to be cynical..not their software!)

It would make sense to me if once their hands were revealed, HEM went back and crunched the equity against their hands at each point I contributed money to the pot.

I'm running HEM 1.09 Beta 24 on Vista everything as admin. This hand happened today so no need to Fix EV for Current Player although I did that as well and it made no difference.

Here is the HH:

***** Hand History for Game 14089118126 ***** (Full Tilt)
$200.00 USD PL Omaha - Monday, August 17, 12:17:24 ET 2009
Table Harewood (6 max ante deep) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: teddy wong11 ( $1012.05 USD )
Seat 2: Johi ( $204.20 USD )
Seat 3: Hero ( $100.00 USD )
Seat 4: Bombasticus ( $193.50 USD )
Seat 5: locky80 ( $1945.20 USD )
Seat 6: tallfatguy ( $330.40 USD )
Johi posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$2.00 USD].
teddy wong11 posts ante of [$0.30 USD].
Johi posts ante of [$0.30 USD].
Hero posts ante of [$0.30 USD].
Bombasticus posts ante of [$0.30 USD].
locky80 posts ante of [$0.30 USD].
tallfatguy posts ante of [$0.30 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kh As Kc Jd ]
Bombasticus calls [$2.00 USD]
locky80 calls [$2.00 USD]
tallfatguy raises [$12.80 USD]
teddy wong11 folds
Johi folds
Hero raises [$43.20 USD]
Bombasticus folds
locky80 calls [$43.20 USD]
tallfatguy calls [$32.40 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, Qh, Ah ]
Hero bets [$54.50 USD]
locky80 calls [$54.50 USD]
tallfatguy calls [$54.50 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
locky80 checks
tallfatguy checks
** Dealing River ** [ Js ]
locky80 checks
tallfatguy checks
Hero shows [Kh, As Kc Jd ]
locky80 shows [8s, 9h Td 7s ]
locky80 wins $300.90 USD from main pot
tallfatguy doesn't show [9s, Ts Jc 6d ]

netsrak
08-17-2009, 02:39 PM
Please see this thread for a discussion: http://www.holdemmanager.net/forum/showthread.php?t=12624

For further questions please mail the original handhistory file with a link to this thread to fabio@holdemmanager.net

Sentient
08-17-2009, 03:48 PM
Please see this thread for a discussion: http://www.holdemmanager.net/forum/showthread.php?t=12624

For further questions please mail the original handhistory file with a link to this thread to fabio@holdemmanager.net

I actually read this thread before I posted.

In my example, I lost $100 and the EV Diff is $0, meaning that I should expect to lose all $100. Since I was actually a favorite and not drawing dead, this doesn't make sense. Working correctly, I would expect to see -$100 and an EV Diff of $100+ given I got my money in good.

I'll email the HH.