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Chupacabras
12-02-2011, 05:41 AM
When I filter by VPIP=false, both blinds show a winrate of -50bb/100. Is this the winrate of these positions if I folded every hand?

Patvs
12-02-2011, 11:08 AM
If you play on a 10max table. And you play 100 hands. (10 orbits)
You'll pay the Small Blind + Big Blind (=1.5 BB) 10 times.
So the winrate is -15 BB/100.

If you play on a HU table. And you play 100 hands. (50 orbits)
You'll pay the Small Blind + Big Blind (=1.5 BB) 50 times.
So the winrate is -75 BB/100.

Chupacabras
12-02-2011, 01:05 PM
I still don't get it. I was under the impression that HEM showd the values from the universe of posted blinds. For instance, in 100 hands in the BB we put a BB 100 hands, therefore I would lose 100bb/100 on the bb and 50bb/100 on the sb. However, this still doesn't explain why it shows a 50bb/100 winrate for each blind when I filter by VPIP=false.

I am playing 6-max, and my winrate on the BB and SB is -9bb/100 -59bb/100 reespectively. Since I am not sure of the measurement of winrates in bing blids, I don't know how much I am efectively losing/winning from these positions. Could you clear this for me please?

olliepower
12-03-2011, 01:11 AM
When you filtered for VPIP false, some hands where it was limped around and you saw a free flop are getting counted because you did not VPIP. You were forced to post the blind and therefore did not voluntarily contribute money. What results do you get if you filter for VPIP = false and Saw Flop = false?

Chupacabras
12-03-2011, 02:34 AM
-50 on the SB and -64 on the BB.

Patvs
12-03-2011, 05:34 AM
If you filter for SB only + VPIP = false and Saw Flop = false: -50 BB/100 is accurate for the SB.
-100 BB/100 would have been the most logical for the BB, but there can also be hands where you get a walk (everybody folds and the BB wins the hand uncontested)


Those hands will come up separately if you add a filter like Won hand = true.