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Ekstone
07-09-2009, 12:55 PM
Hello,

could you check this equity:

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/090709/elemz_s1_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/090709/elemz_s1_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg)

I think the KK was more preflop equity againts an AK than 4,2%.
Thank you for your check.

Regards,
Ekstone

fozzy71
07-09-2009, 01:04 PM
Could you please post the HH text here, and also email the original HH text file to support@holdemmanager.net with a link to this thread. You can also CC a copy of that email to me at fozzy@holdemmanager.net.

Ekstone
07-09-2009, 01:19 PM
Hello,

you can find the HH text below.
The mail with the original HH text file was sent.

Thank you for your help in advance!
Regards


http://www.holdemmanager.net
NL Holdem $2(BB) Replayer Game#13246723388

Spewmeister ($201)
romcar ($86.80)
MintyG ($200)
PhenomAH04 ($205)
callNCmyNUTS ($231)
URSLD ($150)
Ekstone ($40)
E-FunkyCold ($211)

Spewmeister posts (SB) $1
romcar posts (BB) $2

Dealt to Ekstone Kh Kc
fold,
PhenomAH04 raises to $6
callNCmyNUTS calls $6
fold,
Ekstone raises to $40 (AI)
fold, fold, fold,
PhenomAH04 calls $34
callNCmyNUTS calls $34
FLOP ($123) 7s As 4d
PhenomAH04 checks
callNCmyNUTS bets $90
PhenomAH04 folds
TURN ($123) 7s As 4d Td
RIVER ($123) 7s As 4d Td Jh
Ekstone shows Kh Kc
(Pre 70%, Flop 4.2%, Turn 2.3%)

callNCmyNUTS shows Ks Ah
(Pre 30%, Flop 95.8%, Turn 97.7%)

callNCmyNUTS wins $120

fozzy71
07-09-2009, 01:26 PM
Thanks. The developer should respond once has had time to look at it. They are in the midst of a lot of updates because of the FTP update, so it may take a bit longer than normal.

Ekstone
07-09-2009, 01:45 PM
Thank you very much for your quick responses!

I will wait the developer's answer.
Btw, I play on FTP as well, so I know what you are speaking :(

Thank you for your help again!

Rvg72
07-09-2009, 05:44 PM
Hi, your equity on the hand was calculated on the turn because that was the last street where there were no more actions. Calculating from the time you were preflop would be very misleading since there was another player in the hand and you did not see his cards

Roy

Ekstone
07-10-2009, 08:18 AM
Hi, your equity on the hand was calculated on the turn because that was the last street where there were no more actions. Calculating from the time you were preflop would be very misleading since there was another player in the hand and you did not see his cards

Roy

OK, I see we did not see the third player's cards but I still think this 4,2% is absolutely false. I think would be better (not correct because the mucked hand, but better) to use the 70% intstead of 4,2%.

But ok, this hand was not so simple because the mucked hands of third player.


And what about this?

Full Tilt Poker Game #12838561825: Table Steamship - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:04:35 ET - 2009/06/15
Seat 1: Sheeplvl1 ($102.70)
Seat 2: ThePHC ($106.05)
Seat 3: ettuscotem15 ($54.65)
Seat 4: GaetanRobidoux ($100)
Seat 5: gofront ($21)
Seat 6: Ekstone ($22.45)
Seat 7: LittleWeasel2 ($110.40)
Seat 8: GAMBLEWITH ($98.10)
Seat 9: rickytan88 ($131.40)
ettuscotem15 posts the small blind of $0.50
GaetanRobidoux posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ekstone [Ad Ah]
gofront folds
Ekstone has 15 seconds left to act
Ekstone raises to $4
LittleWeasel2 folds
GAMBLEWITH folds
rickytan88 folds
Sheeplvl1 folds
ThePHC folds
ettuscotem15 calls $3.50
GaetanRobidoux folds
GaetanRobidoux adds $1
*** FLOP *** [Jc 9d 3d]
ettuscotem15 checks
Ekstone has 15 seconds left to act
Ekstone has requested TIME
Ekstone bets $17
ettuscotem15 calls $17
*** TURN *** [Jc 9d 3d] [7c]
ettuscotem15 checks
Ekstone bets $1.45, and is all in
ettuscotem15 calls $1.45
Ekstone shows [Ad Ah]
ettuscotem15 shows [7h 7d]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 9d 3d 7c] [Jh]
Ekstone shows two pair, Aces and Jacks
ettuscotem15 shows a full house, Sevens full of Jacks
ettuscotem15 wins the pot ($43.65) with a full house, Sevens full of Jacks
Ekstone adds $20
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $45.90 | Rake $2.25
Board: [Jc 9d 3d 7c Jh]
Seat 1: Sheeplvl1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: ThePHC (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: ettuscotem15 (small blind) showed [7h 7d] and won ($43.65) with a full house, Sevens full of Jacks
Seat 4: GaetanRobidoux (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: gofront didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Ekstone showed [Ad Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 7: LittleWeasel2 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: GAMBLEWITH didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: rickytan88 didn't bet (folded)

Check it please, you will see, the All-in EV will be about minus 20$! Why?
Hmm, I think I see. I thought the All-in EV graph shows something like Sklansky Bucks in PokerEV software, but it seems no.

Is there a graph in HM, which can show the Sklansky Bucks value?
If no, will be? :D