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Tanner1277
07-01-2009, 01:28 AM
I just played some of the new 5xVPP tables on stars and my HUD didnt work there. Not sure if this has been posted before, just thought i'd bring it to attention.

rjgrolsch
07-01-2009, 03:11 AM
I just played some of the new 5xVPP tables on stars and my HUD didnt work there. Not sure if this has been posted before, just thought i'd bring it to attention.

just about to post this


There are new table's on stars called 5x VPP tables and the hud doesnt show up there.

Hands are importing fine though

AKM
07-01-2009, 11:13 AM
yea its mentioned in the 1.09 beta10 thread.
you can temporarily get the hud to pop up through table finder, but if you do it for a few tables it just crashes(so i guess in theory it could work for 1-2 tables).

Really waiting for an update for this.

fozzy71
07-01-2009, 11:53 AM
There is another (merged) thread about it here - http://208.109.95.123/forum/showthread.php?t=12860

I would assume Roy will get it in the next update, either Beta 10b or Beta 11.

AKM
07-01-2009, 12:19 PM
any idea on the timeline for the update?
its a pretty big deal for ssnl players now that most games are 5xvpp

fozzy71
07-01-2009, 12:24 PM
Sorry, I have not heard from the developers yet. I am not always made aware of when the next beta will be.
I woke up this morning and answered a few threads before I realized he had released beta 10a while I was sleeping.

The best place to find out is the current 1.09 beta thread - http://208.109.95.123/forum/showthread.php?p=63009#post63009

AKM
07-01-2009, 03:08 PM
Beta11 fixed the issue. HM support comes through again, thanks guys.

One question, will the VPP and VPP/hand stat be calculated differently(accurately) on the new 5xvpp tables?

fozzy71
07-01-2009, 03:59 PM
Hmmm. Hard to say for sure. Roy didn't know the tables were out yet, so he may not know about the new vpp calculations. Any chance you could find a copy of the details and post them here? Then I can make sure Roy sees them.

AKM
07-01-2009, 06:09 PM
Thats the thing, i dont know how the new points are calculated either. There are a few threads about it here and there with different calcs but you'll probably have to email PS support to get accurate information.

ohly
07-02-2009, 10:01 AM
quoted from the twoplustwo forums:

We are planning to move the formula for VPPs awarded for all ring games to
5x of rake. This change will align the ring games with tournaments, will be
more equitable for players, and make our VIP Program easier to understand.

Compared to the VPPs awarded now, some type of games will award more and
some will award less. Overall our calculations show that we will award a bit
more, assuming current patterns of play will remain. FPPs will continue to
be awarded based on the multiplier for the VIP level.

Examples below

8 handed .50-$1.00 game - pot = $10 - rake = $0.50
2 handed .50-$1.00 game - pot = $10 - rake = $0.50
2.5 VPPs will be awarded to each table
8 handed each player is awarded .31 VPPs
2 handed each player is awarded 1.25 VPPs

8 handed $2-4 game - pot = $20 - rake = $1.00
4 handed $2-4 game - pot = $20 - rake = $1.00
5 VPPs will be awarded to each table
8 handed each player is awarded .63 VPPs
4 handed each player is awarded 1.25 VPPs

We feel that this planned change is an improvement for the program. The date for this change is not set yet.

Your feedback is appreciated.


Scotty
PokerStars VIP Team

hope this is what you were looking for!

fozzy71
07-02-2009, 10:31 AM
TYVM. I am forwarding to the developer asap.

Tanner1277
07-04-2009, 08:04 AM
Any word on this update or when it will be happening. More tables than not are 5x VPP at NL50, that's a lot of people without stats.

fozzy71
07-04-2009, 08:22 AM
The only ones that weren't being picked up in Beta 12 were the Fast versions of the 50BB Min, newVPP. They should all be working in beta 13.


The place to check for new betas is the releases forum - http://208.109.95.123/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=11


Beta 13

http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/HmBetaUpdate.exe

* (1.09 Beta 13 HUD) Stars 50BB min,fast,newVPP tables fix.
* (1.09 Beta 13 NEW) The Vs Player Min BB's setting on the vs Player tab is now remembered
* (1.09 Beta 13 HUD) Fixed party 6 max tables defaulting to 9 max
* (1.09 Beta 13 HUD) Players with notes now have an added note icon, drawn on top of the regular icon.
* (1.09 Beta 13 NEW) Hand range tool now allows input of hole and board cards.
* (1.09 Beta 13 BUG) Minor fixes to hand range tool.
* (1.09 Beta 13 NEW) Added support for Pacific 3 man winner take all tourneys for tourney winnings
* (1.09 Beta 13 BUG) Fixed bug that caused Pacific hand histories to fail to import where the filename did not have the text Holdem.txt in it
* (1.09 Beta 13 BUG) Fixed Cake tourney bug where the buyin amount in the hand history was assumed to be buyin + rake. Now the rake is guessed based on the tourney size and buyin thanks to a list sent by "vlsup"
* (1.09 Beta 13 NEW) Some turbo's and super turbo's on Cake will now be recognized as such

Tanner1277
07-05-2009, 11:06 PM
Thx, i updated itto beta 13 and now the VPP tables all have stats, (not sure if this is the thread where i should post this but) but one thing that is happening now is when a pot goes to showdown the HUD pops up and says how much money was won or lost but not whe whole cards as it used to. Can i fix this on my end or is it the beta?

fozzy71
07-05-2009, 11:14 PM
Muck cards should still be shown, if they are known at showdown, and you haven't set the muck card timer to 0 by accident. The hands that goe to showdown, are italicized in the Table Averages Display of the HUD. You should also be able to click on the winners name in that display to see the hand history, and by clicking on the pot amount the board cards and community cards (if known) should display for a few seconds.