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tiako
06-30-2009, 05:24 PM
Is it posible?
The checkbox for activate it is disabled...

fozzy71
06-30-2009, 05:53 PM
No, and unfortunately it most likely never will.


It works for me on Party with FPHG, FTP, Absolute/UB and I-Poker. It's possible we will add Prima.

Stars probably won't happen. They recently reworked the chat box to stop people reading it. They said if anybody manages to crack the new chatbox, they will just change the software again.

tiako
06-30-2009, 06:29 PM
And then, dimmed stats neither, true?

fozzy71
06-30-2009, 06:39 PM
Correct. :(

The Dimmed Stats are part of the Live Tracking features.

maxL
06-30-2009, 07:00 PM
hi, can anyone please explain in some words or direct me to a link where i can see what actually LIVE TRACKING is ?

i cant find anything in the faq

fozzy71
06-30-2009, 08:35 PM
http://208.109.95.123/forum/showthread.php?t=11876

http://holdemmanagertraining.com/preview.html


http://208.109.95.123/forum/showthread.php?t=12566

sostegno
07-01-2009, 04:55 AM
http://208.109.95.123/forum/showthread.php?t=11876

http://holdemmanagertraining.com/preview.html


http://208.109.95.123/forum/showthread.php?t=12566

But Stars allows other Pokercalculators like Poker Calculator Pro (aka Poker Pro 2007 by PokerProLabs), CalculatmePro... who all read from the chatbox and Poker Pro also shows the wether players ck/c/f or raise...
So Ps either has to allow HEM to also use this feature or forbid to use the other calculators.

Oh i think i gonna write that to stars. And maybe some Mod here can post a layout for a mass email to stars out of this stuff i wrote here, so that we can create some pressure on Stars.
THX

tiako
07-01-2009, 12:05 PM
Correct. :(

The Dimmed Stats are part of the Live Tracking features.

Hi,

But, is this a legal or a technical constraint?
I mean, if it were technical I think it's not complicate at least to detect the street using the chat box in order to implement some of the dimmed stats features.
This will allow to implement in future releases the posibility of having different HUDS per street.

BR

Tiako

fozzy71
07-01-2009, 12:21 PM
I will ask the HUD developer to reply and answer your questions, so I don't give any incorrect information.

Mike chops
07-01-2009, 12:35 PM
I heard this infomation 2nd hand form John @ PokerHound who I got the code from. Apparently PokerStars changed the chat box specifically to stop people reading it. They also said they would change it again if developers hacked the new chat box code. I'd imagine it would be a lot easier for Stars to keep doing this than it would be for us to keep finding new ways to do things Stars don't want us to do.

I originally started working on the Stars chatbox. The code I had was working but buggy so it didnt get included in a release. So that's why the checkbox is there. If Stars change their policy, we will reenable it.

BlackSaphire
07-01-2009, 04:53 PM
But Stars allows other Pokercalculators like Poker Calculator Pro (aka Poker Pro 2007 by PokerProLabs), CalculatmePro... who all read from the chatbox and Poker Pro also shows the wether players ck/c/f or raise...
So Ps either has to allow HEM to also use this feature or forbid to use the other calculators.

As far as I know, while it's obviously a pity that we probably won't have a very useful added feature in HEM, the other SW are facing the bigger problem of not being able to deliver anymore the key (and in most cases the only) feature they were built to provide...

sostegno
07-01-2009, 05:37 PM
As far as I know, while it's obviously a pity that we probably won't have a very useful added feature in HEM, the other SW are facing the bigger problem of not being able to deliver anymore the key (and in most cases the only) feature they were built to provide...

what do you mean by "..not being able to deliver any key..", what key?

BlackSaphire
07-02-2009, 12:21 AM
what do you mean by "..not being able to deliver any key..", what key?

The Key feature of HEM is ex-post Hand Analysis, that is based on HH reading and will work 'till "the end of time"... Live Tracking is a very nice possible addon.

The Key feature of a SW like Calculatem is to help you make the right decision in the current hand... if they can't read the current hand, they cannot do what they're built for.

Imagine it like this...
HEM is a car running on AvGas; Calculatem (just using it as example) uses diesel.
Our developers are working to make HEM running on diesel too.
All of a sudden there's no diesel to be found anywhere...
HEM developers say "Oh... pity, it was nice", but HEM will still run on AvGas...
Calculatem will stop at the side of the road...

My educated guess is that we're non happy, but they may well be banging their heads on the wall right now...

sostegno
07-02-2009, 03:55 AM
oh ya so true, i thought you ment something like activation key...english is not my mother language.