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smell777
06-22-2009, 11:05 AM
Hi, pls help to understand.
What does "raise flop cbet oop" stat mean?
How does this correlate with check raise? How can he actually raise cbet oop, for it not to be a check raise? The numbers seem to be different.
And one more question. "Turn cbet" is a delayed cbet, when there was no flop cbet or a double barrel? Thanks a lot.

netsrak
06-22-2009, 02:26 PM
Do the explanations of the stats in the faq help you?
http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=155
http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=89
http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=156
and take a look in the stats definitions at the end of the manual: http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/HoldemManagerManual.pdf

smell777
06-23-2009, 05:04 AM
Do the explanations of the stats in the faq help you?
http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=155
http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=89
http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=156
and take a look in the stats definitions at the end of the manual: http://www.holdemmanager.com/downloads/HoldemManagerManual.pdf
Hi, ty,
I found answer for turn cbet (btw why don't you keep all the stats explanations in one place?)
Still wondering abount raising cbet oop stat...? Found no explanation of this in your manuals.
Ty

netsrak
06-23-2009, 05:49 AM
Maybe Fozzy has an answer for you...

fozzy71
06-23-2009, 08:37 AM
edit, I am blind -......... :(


It's too early in the morning.....


I shall return with an answer later (I hope)

smell777
06-23-2009, 08:53 AM
I am using the latest beta 1/09/beta 8
hud options- player preferences- continuation bet -Raise flop CB (oop)
Just like u have on a sreenshot.
EDIT : Oh, ok, Good morning, fozzy!

fozzy71
06-23-2009, 09:06 AM
Was up til after 2am and my dog woke me at 6am to go out and do his business. I can never get back to sleep once I am up. :mad:

I sent a message to the developer asking for a definition. I will respond once he gets in touch with me.

fozzy71
06-23-2009, 01:38 PM
What does "raise flop cbet oop" stat mean?
How does this correlate with check raise? How can he actually raise cbet oop, for it not to be a check raise? The numbers seem to be different..

Yes, this stat shows % of time the player will raise a flop cbet when he is OOP. So basically a check raise of the flop cbet. Not sure of the exact difference in the formulas, to be able to say for certain why they would be different.

smell777
06-25-2009, 06:38 AM
Thanks.
But is there a chance we can get to know the exact formulas? Bacause the numbers seem to be quite different...:confused: Confused a bit.

fozzy71
06-25-2009, 07:35 AM
Formulas for every HM Stat! (http://208.109.95.123/forum/showthread.php?t=3595)

Fermion5
09-27-2010, 01:16 AM
I think I figured out the c/r stats...



Flop Check Raise as PFR Raised Pot: Flop raise % after checking as the pre flop raiser in a single raised pot pre-flop

c/r flop as PFR in raised pots only.


Flop Check Raise as PFR 3-Bet Pot: Flop raise % after checking as the pre flop 3-bettor


C/r flop as PFR in 3bet pots only.


Above stats arent that useful. The most useful ones are:


Flop Check Raise Raised Pot Check Raise in a pot that had a raise preflop

C/r flop as PFR and as PFC in raised pots.


Raise Flop CB (OOP): Raise flop Cbet when out of position

C/r flop cbet as PFC in raised pots and 3bet pots.



Too bad HEM doesn't give us the most logical one:

c/r flop cbet as PFC in raised pots ONLY.

Whole check/raise category of stats is full of useless ones. 3 stats of "as PFR" but none for "as PFC."

footnotes:
PFC = preflop caller
definitions from here (http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/95/Stat+Definitions)