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letoooo
09-07-2011, 07:12 PM
I play the 888poker super turbos and the EV calculations have a bug
They are never under $EV which should not be the case! Instead of being in a minus figure they are on %0.
This leads to much higher red lines than they should be which is annoying!

Patvs
09-07-2011, 08:35 PM
Read: http://forums.holdemmanager.com/manager-general/24059-ev-not-all-situations.html

letoooo
09-08-2011, 01:29 PM
Read: http://forums.holdemmanager.com/manager-general/24059-ev-not-all-situations.html

sorry but I dont quite understand that article's relation to super turbos...

When I was playing the superturbos on full tilt I was often getting minus EV and I understand why I had minus EV.

So were the calculations recently changed so that EV will never be minus??

Patvs
09-08-2011, 01:47 PM
The calculations are the same.

If you play a $10 SNG, where you can win $50 it's actually very difficult to get a negative Luck Adjusted Winnings. (or a higher than $50 EV). It's only possible if you encounter many (at least 3 or 4 or more) critical All-Ins hands where you WIN (being a huge underdog), or LOSE (being a huge favorite).

It should also still be possible for 888poker.

letoooo
09-08-2011, 04:28 PM
It happened about once every 20 games on fulltilt

on 888poker i played 600+ games and it never happened, and i never had over the maximum possible win either so the ev calculations are done different than they were on full tilt for sure

Also they are recorded as regular speed..

Maybe it's because the SNG type is new-ish. It had a "new" sign beside it about a month ago when i started playing them..

I ask because my red (EV) line is much much higher than the green line and I want to know if the games are really as profitable as the red line suggests or am i wasting my time hoping for the green line to catch up..

netsrak
09-09-2011, 04:31 AM
Please zip and mail the original handhistory files for some sample tourneys (you find them in the HM archive folder or in the handhistory folder of your poker client) together with a link to this thread and an explanation of the problem to support@holdemmanager.net. We will then try to reproduce the problem.

Patvs
09-09-2011, 04:49 AM
Is the payout for these "new" SNGs the same as on Full Tilt?
1th: 50%
2th: 30%
3th: 20%?

letoooo
09-09-2011, 04:44 PM
Is the payout for these "new" SNGs the same as on Full Tilt?
1th: 50%
2th: 30%
3th: 20%?

They are 6max.

And the payout structure is slightly different.

I think it was 66.6/33.3 on FT and 70/30 on 888 but not sure about this