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bighomeytim
05-31-2009, 01:58 AM
I uninstalled my antivirus to get hem to work, now how do I protect my computer?

mksmipalla
05-31-2009, 09:38 AM
As far as a free one I don't know, but I use Norton and have never had a problem with it with Holdem Manager

blanks
05-31-2009, 10:01 AM
I can't say which one to use but I can say DONT use AVG.

Nothing but problems with them.

I dumped AVG and switched to avast so I haven't really used it long enough to say whether it's better, i saw it recommended in a few of the poker forums.

AVG is a waste of time for using poker software.

RonHogen
05-31-2009, 10:26 AM
Try Eset Nod , its small, and cheap to buy.

I never had any probs with it in coorperation with HM

stretch00
05-31-2009, 03:09 PM
Well I don't agree with BANKS on this one.I use AVG free and have never had a problem.
I only use free stuff and really only walk thu the valley of the shadow of internet death, if you know what I mean! PORN/Gaming.

Here's my set up all FREE:
AVG 8.5> antivirus
PCTools SpyDr 6.0.0.8> root kit/malware removal
PCTools Firewall + > it's a little bit more advanced user kinda but once you set it in the beginning for trusted programs etc,, it's pretty simple to use and teaches you a lot about what programs really do if you research the prompts.
MBAMs MalwareBytes> also a root kit/malware removal but I really only use it to have an additional shell extension scan
This is my favorite thing and I suggest everyone get it and use it:
VIRUS TOTAL UPLOADER> anything you are thinking of Dloading you save it to your desktop then RIGHT click and send it to VTotal and it gets scanned by around 40 spyware/malware providers! This is screen shot of a popular poker tool being Dloaded for free,it came back with a total of seven hits that did not get flagged by my AV! So I always take this into account before opening/running anything!http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/3632/053120091458146586806.jpg

blanks
05-31-2009, 03:25 PM
I was getting many false positives for Trojan Horse by AVG, I ended up trashing my PT3 because of it and nearly to a couple other downloads except i knew to push -ignore instead of remove or heal.
They say if you want free, go with avast especially for poker downloads. But Norton overall is probably the safest way to go especially if your not a computer whiz, like me. $$$

stretch00
05-31-2009, 04:02 PM
If you are a VISTA(crap) user you need to be careful with certain AV programs like Norton.If you have a problem connecting to HM/posgreSQL and are forced to un-install your AV programs,which is recommended for the install or re-install of posgreSQL, your liscense for the AV program may only be able to re-load during a certain a time frame!!!!!
This is in the FAQs here at HM! So it should be considered!
Updates for VISTA(crap) routinly dissable connections to posgreSQL,and sometimes block it permanently.Which will force you to UN-INSTALL the AV programs,to rectify the problem.
AVG is or was recomended as 1 of the AV programs to use w/HM!
I just read it yesterday but can't find the FAQ.
So if you are a VISTA(crap) user please be carefull with your choice,maybe get an up to date recomendation from Morny,RVG,support.If anybody knows it's them!

morny
05-31-2009, 05:15 PM
I also use AVG without problems and i use this PC for work/poker/surfing alot of hours each day, Avast is free also and good too

blanks
05-31-2009, 07:01 PM
Maybe it works good with HM but i wouldnt use for anything else.
Trashed my PT and HM does not work with Vista as near as I can tell so I'm left with POffice i guess.

stretch00
05-31-2009, 08:52 PM
You know what Blanks, I feel sorry for you,because it is now so easy to see you have no idea how to use a computer.
But you still will jump into a thread and put your 2cents in.I would hope you would refrain from saying something that you really have absolutely NO IDEA about.
This forum is a place where people come for help or to provide help.
The other purpose of this forum is to discuss the software and it's uses.
I did all I could to help you, but you could not follow simple instructions, and rendered my assistance to you USELESS.I also fear it may have put a bad taste in your mouth about HM,which is unjustified!!!
You have not followed the FAQs or any of the instruction/guides properly! You said you did but you didn't,from the start.
You dowloaded HM and tried to install that before having posgreSQL.When it clearly states on the HM home page that SQL MUST BE INSTALLED FIRST.
And when I asked if you had SQL you said "yes,that you did", and you did not!
You need someone to actually do the work for you and that is what MORNY has offered you,so ONCE AGAIN I SUGGEST YOU DO A TEAM VIEWER SESSION WITH MORNY.
I only hope you will be able to figure out how to run the small executable file needed for the session. So you can have HM and enjoy this great program with all it benefits. Good Luck.

undefined
06-02-2009, 09:41 AM
Hi guys,

do yourself a favour and invest a few bucks into a descent Internet-Security-Suite like G-Data or F-Secure.

They have the big advantage of a) comming with a set of predefined rules
and b) they actually guide u through the way of creating other rules for other software in a way that u don't have to be an übergeek to follow.

Ergo: u install HEM -> u start HEM -> ISS asks u if u want a rule to be created for further start ups -> click yes -> done... no more hassle... that easy...

Personally i have been using both products for years now (lately only G-Data due to more performance) and never had any problems with any software set up.




But Norton overall is probably the safest way to go



I died a little inside when i read that.
Dude pls catch up on independant software-reviews like form german ct-magazine.

And by the way... if u have ur router properly set up and know a little about the internet u wont need an ISS at all.

That being said... gl at the tables :)

blanks
06-02-2009, 10:02 AM
gd. answer, that's really why i'm using the free stuff, personally i hate Norton and will never buy it but I've seen others say they're using it and recommend it.

F-secure- my IP recommends that but I had never heard of them before, i'll be giving them a look now for sure.

undefined
06-02-2009, 11:54 AM
Hey :)

Glad to help.

F-Secure has been among the top 4 ISS for years now... only downside... with all the security (scanning all handled data with 2 engines in real time) is, its a real resource-hog and scanning takes time.

That's why i switched to G-Data, which also uses 2 engines, consumes a lot of memory (both engines running ~ 400mb), but its way faster and doesn't snap-freeze the system, which occationally happend with F-Secure.

But don't really worry, traffic from Pokersites is so low u will hardly ever notice a difference (at least while playing poker).

The problem with most freeware solutions is they don't come with a backgroundscanner, which scans all files as they r being either downloaded or in some way processed on your system. So malicious software might get in without u noticing untill u explicitly scan the program.

For interested german speaking ppl:

https://www.sicher-im-netz.de/
http://www.bsi-fuer-buerger.de/

Greets & GL!

stretch00
06-02-2009, 02:09 PM
Just another reason to use AVG in my opinion!
AVG does have a background real time protection scan! It's called "Resident Shield"
I know a lot people are really down on AVG and it's un-justified. The only complaint I ever had with AVG is that it can be a little resource heavy,and therefore slow scans.But that's it,it combines seamless with HM and all sites I play.
And as far as protection I think it's a monster,never let a single thing get by!
Setting rules for trusted zones is extremely easy if needed!

undefined
06-02-2009, 04:40 PM
Take whatever u feel most comfortable with, man!
I was just spewing my 2 cents on that. :)

You r right, AVG has a backgroundscanner now, even in the free verion, but still lacks behaviour recognition (or whatever that might be called in english lol). Meaning ur security is heavily dependant on AVG distributing up to date signatures in time. Plus its engine sucks, it lacks some other feature but those aren't really essential... so im gonna close this... pls take whatever u feel best with!



never let a single thing get by


Never be to sure of that. AVG is usually in the bottom forth (in recognising virii) in every test i read. Besides if someone really wanted to get into ur box, he'd get there no matter if u use AVG, F-Secure or whatever ;)

Greets & GL

blanks
06-02-2009, 04:44 PM
Meaning ur security is heavily dependant on AVG distributing up to date signatures in time.

that's why i got rid of AVG and these guys are donks here their software doesn't work with Vista and somehow that's my fault?

i hope i can get a refund

undefined
06-02-2009, 04:57 PM
guys are donks here their software doesn't work with Vista



meeing HEM?

Well... don't be so harsh, thats not fair.
I think they r trying their best. Just take a look how many times a day morney is answearing the same questions over and over again, offering his help via teamviewer and still being polite and on target. I've only been here a few times but i know what he must feel like.

I know Vista is a real bitch, and i have a really hard time helping clients/friends with their problems... though that's (almost) my main job :)

Most times, and i don't mean this in any offending way (since i dont even know u)... most times the error happens between seat and keyboard ;)

So just take a deep breath, relax and let the guys work it out. Afterall HEM is an excellent piece of software and once u got it installed and got used to it u don't want to miss it!

Gotta run now. Cya!

stretch00
06-02-2009, 05:17 PM
You know what Blanks, I feel sorry for you,because it is now so easy to see you have no idea how to use a computer.
But you still will jump into a thread and put your 2cents in.I would hope you would refrain from saying something that you really have absolutely NO IDEA about.
This forum is a place where people come for help or to provide help.
The other purpose of this forum is to discuss the software and it's uses.
I did all I could to help you, but you could not follow simple instructions, and rendered my assistance to you USELESS.I also fear it may have put a bad taste in your mouth about HM,which is unjustified!!!
You have not followed the FAQs or any of the instruction/guides properly! You said you did but you didn't,from the start.
You dowloaded HM and tried to install that before having posgreSQL.When it clearly states on the HM home page that SQL MUST BE INSTALLED FIRST.
And when I asked if you had SQL you said "yes,that you did", and you did not!
You need someone to actually do the work for you and that is what MORNY has offered you,so ONCE AGAIN I SUGGEST YOU DO A TEAM VIEWER SESSION WITH MORNY.
I only hope you will be able to figure out how to run the small executable file needed for the session. So you can have HM and enjoy this great program with all it benefits. Good Luck.

DO NOT LISTEN TO BLANKS HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT COMPUTERS,or SOFTWARE.
HERES A LINK TO BLANKS CAPABILITY:
http://www.holdemmanager.net/forum/images/statusicon/thread_hot.gif i mad a messe (http://www.holdemmanager.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11399)
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Posted By blanks (http://www.holdemmanager.net/forum/member.php?u=4664)

blanks
06-02-2009, 05:27 PM
Sorry i did not know my "capabilities" must to be worth more than the price I paid for the software?
Of course I did't know that HEM is not compatible with the Vista os either?

ship it....baby

I cant dive 55

stretch00
06-02-2009, 05:37 PM
Sorry i did not know my "capabilities" must to be worth more than the price I paid for the software?
Of course I did't know that HEM was not compatible with the Vista os either?

ship it....baby

I cant dive 55

Theres gotta be 10s of 1000s of vista users here BLANKS!!!!Why is it your the only one who says that HM is NOT VISTA compatible?

by the way I put that avatar ( the yellow moving picture to the left) just for you!

blanks
06-02-2009, 05:42 PM
Theres gotta be 10s of 1000s of vista users here BLANKS!!!!Why is it your the only one who says that HM is NOT VISTA compatible?because it's not

ship it baby.....ship it good

yes, i noted ur new avatar, i would suggest you keeping it if HM is going to continue selling to Vista owners.

blanks
06-02-2009, 05:50 PM
I can say that because I purchased Poker Office two days ago and have been using it now for..... wait for it......two days, flawlessly out of the box with no hassles other dloads surprises or even one trip to their support forum as yet.
go figur?

ship it .....too me

stretch00
06-02-2009, 06:00 PM
Then why are you still here?
Are you here just to harass HM and it's supporters?

Good luck with that TROJAN HORSE!!

blanks
06-02-2009, 06:29 PM
Then why are you still here?
Are you here just to harass HM and it's supporters?

Good luck with that TROJAN HORSE!!

yes i have nothing.......better to do.....donkey

See, there they're never really was any "Trojan Horse", but if u could read u would already know that.

SHIP IT NOW

morny
06-03-2009, 10:54 AM
This is going nowhere so if there is any more personal remarks made ill just lock up the thread, HM is compatible with Vista however your problems is linked to other issues with Vista and security software, blaming HM because Vista or your security software is blocking a 3rd party database program is akin to bringing back your electric guitar and demanding a refund because your amplifer is broken and you cant play the guitar. However if you still want a refund youll need to contact support@holdemmanager.net but if you change your mind and want support then start a thread and ill do my best to help

So if youve any more comments regarding Antiviruses feel free to post otherwise post a new thread

blanks
06-03-2009, 01:36 PM
has nothing to do with my antivirus thnx since I trashed AVG all is well.
Except of course for the problems you have created and are discussed in the link to my original reason for being here.
Strethooo is not helping your cause here any if support is what u intend to offer and frankly is the reason i would prefer a refund than to continue doinking around, I have already contacted sales at the email I alredy have but they seem a little hesitant to refund or acknowledge that this software IS NOT compatible with Vista? Maybe you could help by contacting your sales department and explaining to them all the ways this software is a complete failure when it comes to working with Vista os.



see post #18 on this thread for the link to my thread.

I apologize for Stretchooo's hijacking of this thread to complain about and flame me for not being - stupid - enough to listen to him.

p.s. been running PokerOffice three days now without a hitch, out of the box, on my VISTA os, np. I highly recommend it.