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shahrad
08-17-2011, 01:35 PM
I would liket to be able to add ongame's mucked cards, when reviewing the session. While I am playing, I look up lots of HH to see villain's mucked cards, but I have no possibility to save them.

udbrky
08-17-2011, 05:23 PM
This is Ongame's ruling - they're available in the HH on the table, but not the one written to the HDD, and they have ruled that we can't pull from the other HH.

Molgan
08-18-2011, 04:56 AM
This is Ongame's ruling - they're available in the HH on the table, but not the one written to the HDD, and they have ruled that we can't pull from the other HH.

Maybe i'm wrong but I thought that this information (from the log-file in my HDD) contains mucked cards:

***** History for hand R5-167718174-348 *****
Start hand: Thu Aug 18 02:08:51 CEST 2011
Table: Oslo [167718174] (POT_LIMIT OMAHA_HI $0.50/$0.50, Real money)
User: HERO
Button: seat 9
Players in round: 5
Seat 5: xxxx1 ($77.53)
Seat 6: xxxx2 ($19)
Seat 7: xxxx3 ($50)
Seat 8: HERO ($75.31)
Seat 9: xxxx4 ($63.14)
xxxx1 posts big blind ($0.50)
xxxx2 posts big blind ($0.50)
---
Dealing pocket cards
Dealing to HERO: [3h, 4d, Qd, Qs]
xxxx3 folds
HERO calls $0.50
xxxx4 folds
xxxx1 checks
xxxx2 checks
--- Dealing flop [Ks, 4s, Ah]
xxxx1 checks
xxxx2 checks
HERO checks
--- Dealing turn [Kh]
xxxx1 checks
xxxx2 checks
HERO checks
--- Dealing river [Kd]
xxxx1 checks
xxxx2 checks
HERO checks
---
Summary:
Main pot: $1.50 won by HERO ($1.43)
Rake taken: $0.07
Seat 5: xxxx1 ($77.03), net: -$0.50, [5c, 6h, Ts, Jd] (THREE_OF_A_KIND KING)
Seat 6: xxxx2 ($18.50), net: -$0.50, [Tc, As, 4c, 9h] (THREE_OF_A_KIND KING)
Seat 7: xxxx3 ($50)
Seat 8: HERO ($76.24), net: +$0.93, [3h, 4d, Qd, Qs] (FULL_HOUSE KING, QUEEN)
Seat 9: xxxx4 ($63.14)

Sarek
08-18-2011, 06:47 AM
Ongame don't allow us to show mucked cards. This story is minimum a year long.

Pure Presence
08-18-2011, 07:39 AM
You could add an option to edit a HH from within HM (e.g. right click a hand -> Edit, both at the Reports and Sessions tabs) so that players can add the hole cards manually.

udbrky
08-18-2011, 10:14 PM
You can make notes on the hand itself, rather than just individual players now. So you could make a note on the river for the hand, showing what hand they had.

shahrad
08-24-2011, 03:03 PM
You can make notes on the hand itself, rather than just individual players now. So you could make a note on the river for the hand, showing what hand they had.
Adding his hand manually is much better. I guess this is clear to everyone and doesn't need any explanations.

udbrky
08-24-2011, 06:16 PM
Our hands are really cuffed by site rules.

If you edit the hand histories, there's a lot of room for a mistake and edit the wrong things in the heat of the moment.

Adding a note won't ruin a hand history.

shahrad
08-24-2011, 11:14 PM
Our hands are really cuffed by site rules.

If you edit the hand histories, there's a lot of room for a mistake and edit the wrong things in the heat of the moment.

Adding a note won't ruin a hand history.
Don't want to edit the HH. Long time ago when I used PokerOffice and I guess there was no HM, they had the option to edit a hand. I guess PO did correct the HH. I don't know how this exactly worked. But I didn't manipulate the HH. I only remember, I could right click and enter the mucked cards.

Sarek
08-25-2011, 01:04 PM
Sincerelly said, this is "unfair advantage"
When you play live - can you see all mucked cards?

shahrad
08-25-2011, 02:57 PM
Sincerelly said, this is "unfair advantage"
When you play live - can you see all mucked cards?
It is a 'bad etiquette' when you (especially when you did folded and was not involved in the pot or at showdown) ask for mucked cards, but I would never play in a casino where you cannot ask for seeing mucked cards: reason, when I get suspicous that people are playing together somehow, than I want to be able to see mucked cards.
It is something different to datamine and playing with people for the first time and they don't know that you know a lot about there game.
Another point is, you can look up the mucked cards in the browser, they are not a secret. So if you want to see them, you can see them, otherwise how could I ask for a featue to add manullay the mucked cards into the reports?

udbrky
08-25-2011, 03:04 PM
I just don't see a way to get around their site rules. That's something you'd need to discuss with them.

For now, you can add to the notes for the hand.

You could take from there, manually change the hand histories to show those cards.

Then purge the hands from your DB and reimport the new ones.

Ongame just does not want them readily accessible any other way.

shahrad
08-31-2011, 10:51 AM
I tried today to write manually as a note the mucked card of someone, but this was too complicated.
Please add to the last hand history the general note window. This way we could very fast (while playing) add a tag (for example: known mucked card) and write the hand into its window.

udbrky
08-31-2011, 08:45 PM
I'm trying to envision a way to do this to avoid confusion as to what hand the note is for.

udbrky
09-06-2011, 06:48 PM
I passed along a suggestion for having a notes window open for the hands in which to take notes on them.

mgl
05-04-2012, 11:10 AM
Bump. Is there any news on this?

Patvs
05-05-2012, 12:09 AM
Automatic popup of the note is not an unavailable option. Nor are there currently any plans to implement this.

mgl
05-05-2012, 11:13 AM
"not an unavailable" - What does this mean?

Patvs
05-05-2012, 12:17 PM
I meant "not available"