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Guyra
08-10-2008, 06:56 PM
1. Under session tab, there is no stat for BB/100. How can I add it? I do see it under the Reports section tho. This would be very useful here.

This might be a stupid question but exactly what does $EV actually mean?

fabio
08-10-2008, 07:47 PM
You cant edit stats on the sessions tab right now.

$EV shows you your estimated winnings (when getting money in good and holding up)

Guyra
08-10-2008, 08:14 PM
$EV shows you your estimated winnings (when getting money in good and holding up)

thats what I thought but for example then in this hand below I won $227.55, but my $EV Diff was negative ($322.42).

the absolute most I could have lost in this hand was my entire stack which was 205.55. So how is my EV diff -$322.42? I just dont understand the calc.


***** Hand History for Game 7593512822 *****
$200.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, August 10, 05:07:23 ET 2008
Table Cliffrose (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: NLHEHUKING ( $198.00 USD )
Seat 2: superpunkte ( $159.30 USD )
Seat 3: noguerra ( $194.70 USD )
Seat 4: Guyra ( $205.55 USD )
Seat 5: edgess ( $423.60 USD )
Seat 6: scooter_kc ( $235.25 USD )
NLHEHUKING posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
superpunkte posts big blind [$2.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Guyra [ Kc Tc ]
noguerra calls [$2.00 USD]
Guyra calls [$2.00 USD]
edgess raises [$11.00 USD]
scooter_kc calls [$11.00 USD]
NLHEHUKING folds
superpunkte folds
noguerra calls [$9.00 USD]
Guyra calls [$9.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, 5d, 7c ]
noguerra checks
Guyra bets [$32.00 USD]
edgess folds
scooter_kc raises [$89.00 USD]
noguerra folds
Guyra raises [$162.55 USD]
scooter_kc calls [$105.55 USD]
Guyra shows [Kc, Tc ]
scooter_kc shows [7s, 7h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qh ]
Guyra wins $433.10 USD from main pot

fabio
08-10-2008, 09:21 PM
This seems odd. Will ask Roy about that.

Dranik
08-11-2008, 05:59 AM
I'm no expert, but pokerstove shows that you win the pot 25.5% of the times when the money went, so in the long run 25,5% x 433.10 = $108,27. You actually won $433.10, so the EV diff is 433.1 - 108.27 = $324.83, which is pretty close to what HM said. Does this make any sense?

Guyra
08-11-2008, 07:43 AM
I'm no expert, but pokerstove shows that you win the pot 25.5% of the times when the money went, so in the long run 25,5% x 433.10 = $108,27. You actually won $433.10, so the EV diff is 433.1 - 108.27 = $324.83, which is pretty close to what HM said. Does this make any sense?

Thanks Dranik. it sort of makes sense except my EV diff was a negative 322.42 not a positve number.
I guess it's basically saying I will lose on average 322.42 when this situation happens in the future since i will lose this hand 75% of the time.

morny
08-11-2008, 09:13 AM
Yes this is correct,

Rough Maths:

You win 25% and lose 75% of time:
Youll win $205 25 times out of 100 = +$5,125
Youll Lose $205 75 times out of 100 = -$15,375
So over 100 hands if you got all in youd lose $10,250

So on average over this 100 hands you should be losing approx $102.50 per hand, since you won the hand and won $205 instead of losing $102.50 the difference is -$307.50

if you had lost the hand and lost your $205 then your EV Difference would be positive because you should have only lost $102.50 and youve lost $205 so your EV Diff would be +$102.50 if the set held up.