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wrap_it
05-06-2009, 08:07 AM
Hello,

I have two questions regarding my popup:

http://s10.directupload.net/images/090506/j6x8jd3q.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

1) How can EP PFR differ from EP Raise 1st?
2) If you consider this players 3bet stats he 3bet twice from MP, once from the CO, three-times from the BTN and propably three-times from the SB and six times from the BB. Maybe these aren't the exact numbers due to rounding issues but he has definitely 3bet more than once.

In opposite to that the 3bet vs stat only displays once 3bet vs a EP open. Where is the rest?

morny
05-06-2009, 09:38 AM
My Raise 1st and EP PFR match up fine so can Please export your hands from the old database http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=173 then create a new database http://www.holdemmanager.net/faq/afmviewfaq.aspx?faqid=146 and reimport the hands into the new database and im sure that will fix it. That will also fix the other issue because the 3bet vs stats werent being compiled until recently so although it records it for new hands since you updated you need to reimport

before it starts calculating it on the old hands

Actually regarding raise first, i only play 6max, did you ever play any FR hands if so for example the 1st 3 seats would be defined as EP so its possible that you were in the 2nd or last EP and the 1st EP raised before you, in this case you could 3bet and still have your PFR effected but you wouldnt be able to raise 1st since someone already done this so that % would be lower

wrap_it
05-08-2009, 06:01 PM
So I did that and it's still not consistent. I also have no FR hands in my DB but I use the # players filter.

morny
05-08-2009, 08:21 PM
Is it the same for everyone or just this specific player?

wrap_it
05-09-2009, 04:06 AM
yeah, it's for everybody.

morny
05-09-2009, 06:31 PM
Escalated to Mike, hell respond asap

wrap_it
06-12-2009, 06:41 AM
Anything new about this? I just updated to the newest beta, reimported all hands into a new database and switched off all additional HUD filters but the problem still persist and it's pretty significant.

There are players that have a Raise 1st UTG stat of 25% but a PFR UTG stat of 15%.

Mike chops
06-12-2009, 03:18 PM
My stats match up for everybody. Are you playing Full-Ring? If so, the EP position covers UTG and UTG+1. Someone copuld limp UTG and UTG+1 could raise him. UTG+1 would not be raising 1st in, but would be raising a limper.

morny
06-12-2009, 06:58 PM
Yeah i only play Full Ring so that would explain why mine match up too

wrap_it
06-13-2009, 06:32 AM
No, I just have 6max and HU hands in my DB.

Hasuwisp
07-20-2009, 03:01 AM
Hello,

I have two questions regarding my popup:

http://s10.directupload.net/images/090506/j6x8jd3q.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

1) How can EP PFR differ from EP Raise 1st?
2) If you consider this players 3bet stats he 3bet twice from MP, once from the CO, three-times from the BTN and propably three-times from the SB and six times from the BB. Maybe these aren't the exact numbers due to rounding issues but he has definitely 3bet more than once.

In opposite to that the 3bet vs stat only displays once 3bet vs a EP open. Where is the rest?

Why on bu and sb your r1 is so much higher than pfr if pfr inlcudes r1+3b%?

wrap_it
09-11-2009, 08:26 AM
Hi,

I found a new problem (the above one is btw fixed, I just arranged some stats the wrong way):

I saw a player that had the following stats in the popup:

- folds to cbet 50% (3/6)
- folds to cbet in 3bet pots 100% (2/2)
- folds to cbet IP 0% (0/1)
- folds to cbet OOP 60% (3/5)

Additionally I show the folds cbet in raised pots stat on the table which was 29% (seems to be 2/7) and this is what doesn't make sense. Doesn't it have to be 3/6-2/2 = 1/4 (=25%) ?