Where is the "Fold" option in the preflop action sequence?
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    Default Where is the "Fold" option in the preflop action sequence?

    I'm trying to make a note definition for how often a player 5bets 30-50% of his stack and folds preflop.

    In the general tab:
    -I've selected it to define opportunities by action
    In the preflop general tab:
    -I've selected for the player to had NOT show down
    -I've selected for the player to had NOT get all chips in preflop
    -(I've selected these options as a work around to not knowing how to add the fold after the 5bet action sequence preflop)
    In the preflop action sequence:
    -I've selected the 5bet action sequence & edited the minimum & maximum of the 5bet % of stack size for between 30-50.

    However, I tested this definition with a hand and it says it is a success when it shouldn't be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mt.Splashmore View Post
    In the preflop general tab:
    -I've selected for the player to had NOT show down
    -I've selected for the player to had NOT get all chips in preflop
    These settings count for opportunities and successes, so this won't work when you want a % of how many times a player folds as all hands where the player showed down will be excluded for both.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mt.Splashmore View Post
    -(I've selected these options as a work around to not knowing how to add the fold after the 5bet action sequence preflop)
    In the preflop action sequence:
    If you got to make a 5-bet action sequence this should be easy. Just add a six bet with 'player had to not be note recipient' and a fold by the note recipient. A % is always decided by the last action in a sequence, so this would count the fold-% correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HossendeHaai View Post
    Just add a six bet with 'player had to not be note recipient' and a fold by the note recipient.
    How do I do this? I don't see a 6bet option in the quick select list.

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    Options don't appear in the quick select until they've been defined.

    Check out the example Making a definition for four bets - Assaultware Wiki

    You see there you define a 4 bet one raise at a time. It's the same for a 6 bet. The difference there would be that you add two more steps for the 5 bet and the 6 bet

    -I've selected for the player to had NOT show down
    -I've selected for the player to had NOT get all chips in preflop
    You don't need either of these two options.

    -(I've selected these options as a work around to not knowing how to add the fold after the 5bet action sequence preflop)
    Just make a new action and select fold. It shows 3 options, call raise and fold



    You can see it in this screen shot, it's the first option out of the three.

    Also the video linked from the manual http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=5d7MwKAPxKk shows how to add a fold action
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    Thanks, I've successfully made the stat, however I'm having trouble with effective stacks.
    I'm testing a hand where the villain and I were 100bb effective (he was 140bb deep). He had 5B 33% of his effective stack and folded, however the hand is not listed as a success because his 5B size was not the correct ratio for HIS 140bb stack. Changing the effective stacks in the "preflop - general" tab to an effective maximum of 100bb doesn't help either.

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    As described in NoteCaddy, the setting is % of stack size, and not % of effective stack size. Effective stack size settings in the 'preflop - general' tab have no bearing on the action sequence itself.

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    The effective stack size (as described by HossendeHaai) counts for the first action in the sequence where you specify "had to be the note recipient" which may be why it's not working as you think it should. If you continue having difficulty please attach the definition and a sample hand here so I can have a look
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    How do we make it so that the effective stacks count for the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th action in the sequence? Or in this case, the 5bet?

    Sample hand:
    PokerStars Hand #110022497757: Hold'em No Limit (€0.25/€0.50 EUR) - 2014/01/12 13:05:50 ET
    Table 'Milet IV' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 3: Guncha (€71.81 in chips)
    Seat 5: kexs87 (€39.80 in chips)
    Seat 6: Schmiidi (€49.94 in chips)
    Seat 7: FACUMDP (€51.76 in chips)
    Seat 8: arrrteee (€50 in chips)
    Guncha: posts small blind €0.25
    kexs87: posts big blind €0.50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to arrrteee [Kd Ad]
    Schmiidi: folds
    FACUMDP: folds
    arrrteee: raises €0.75 to €1.25
    feletis joins the table at seat #4
    Guncha: raises €3.25 to €4.50
    kexs87: folds
    arrrteee: raises €5.50 to €10
    Guncha: raises €6.50 to €16.50
    Vidrik19 joins the table at seat #1
    arrrteee: raises €33.50 to €50 and is all-in
    Guncha: folds
    Uncalled bet (€33.50) returned to arrrteee
    arrrteee collected €33.50 from pot
    arrrteee: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot €33.50 | Rake €0
    Seat 3: Guncha (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: kexs87 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: Schmiidi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: FACUMDP folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: arrrteee (button) collected (€33.50)
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    The effective stack will always count for the first action where "had to be the note recipient" was marked. The only workaround you could do here would be to remove that from earlier actions (in this case I believe it would be the 3 bet). That would change the definition to some extent but since your focus seems to be the 5 bet, it might make sense
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