mistake of calculation $EV in preflop all-in

[temp555]

hello!

It's SnG $6.50 FR on FTP.
Have a little problem.
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Hold'Em Manager Poker Software - Tracking and Analysis Poker Software
NL Holdem $120(BB) Replayer Game#30519495595

SB ($2,400)
BB ($6,450)
CO ($1,620)
HERO ($3,030)

SB posts (SB) $60
BB posts (BB) $120

Dealt to HERO Ad Ks
fold,
HERO raises to $300
fold,
BB raises to $6,450 (AI)
HERO calls $2,730 (AI)
FLOP ($6,120) 3c Jh 7h
TURN ($6,120) 3c Jh 7h 4h
RIVER ($6,120) 3c Jh 7h 4h Kh
HERO shows Ad Ks
(Pre 50%, Flop 50.0%, Turn 50.0%)

BB shows Kd Ac
(Pre 50%, Flop 50.0%, Turn 50.0%)

HERO wins $3,060
BB wins $3,060
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It's situation 50.4%/49.6%, but only in 2.9% one of us won all pot.
HM (v 1.11.06d) calculate my $EV diff=-$4.29(!?!). opponent with AcKd have $EV diff=-$0.56. opponents who dont play this hand have $EV diff=+$2.07 and +$2.78.
Why? IMHO it's bug. Please fix it.

[Patvs]

We had a EV bug 1.11.05 - 1.11.05d (fixed in 1.11.05e and also didn't occur in earlier versions)
If you ever imported hands into the affected versions, please update to the latest version - http://www.holdemmanager.com/Downloads/HmUpdate.exe
create a new database and reimport the hands.

[temp555]

thanks, it worked.

Question.
Can you make in HM calculating values $EV for each street separately? It about hands without preflop all-in.

[Patvs]

EV-by-street for SNGs?

We considered EV-by-street for cashgames, but opted against it.
Read: http://forums.holdemmanager.com/mana...ituations.html

For SNGs a similar situation would happen where the EV by street often cannot be calculated, leading to inaccurate longterm results if you'd only calculate it for the hands where it is possible.


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Since many players are still interested in EV-by-street and other EV methods (HoldemManager only uses All-in EV) take a look at:

Cooler Hunter EV - Innovative Luck Analyzer! - Free Software -- Two Plus Two Poker Forums

[temp555]

EV-by-street for SNGs?

Yes, I meant SnGs.

Thanks for links and for your help.

I have read and thought about this question before.
Indeed, if hero going all-in on preflop, but other opponents (2 +) is not, and one (or more) of them didn't comes to showdown - calculate $ EV diff for hero is not possible.
But if all other opponents came to showdown - $ EV diff can be calculated.
If it is realized in SnGs - it will be great.


PS: Sorry for long discussion - me a little sad. I thought my new license SnG Wiz app covers both my HM (my desktop computer & notebook), but it is not.