bb raise first stat

[enheda]

how can this stat exist? if the pot is unopened when it gets to the bb then the bb wins the pot without acting.

[Patvs]

You're correct.
The stat shouldn't exist. When you add it, it should always display "-".

[Koxx]

I disagree. This stat should exist but it's bugged. When a player posts BB out of their turn, they check and it's folded to you on BB the pot should be considered unopened. HM seems to treat the pot as limped in such situations. There's a significant difference between limping and posting BB out of turn, limping ranges are tighter than 100% (in 99% cases).

[Patvs]

You're right, but HoldemManager is unable to detect 'posting BB out of turn'.
Similarly HoldemManager is unable to detect players that are sitting out, which is a much bigger problem.

So if you play 3 handed (but 1 player is sitting out), and you use a
2:2-2
3:3-6
4:3-6
5:3-6
6:3-6
7:7-10
8:7-10
9:7-10
10:7-10

player filter, HoldemManager will NOT show you 2-2 stats, but stats based on 3-6 handed.

[Koxx]

Not sure about other rooms but at Pacific it's clear when more than one player posts BB so HM shouldn't have a problem identifying such hands. Example hand history:

***** Cassava Hand History for Game 234137420 *****
$1/$2 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 15 07 2012 13:49:50
Table Douala (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: whatafishIAM ( $314.48 )
Seat 2: SebasAKAllIn ( $267.75 )
Seat 4: Calfus ( $70 )
Seat 9: TEH_POKERRRZ ( $204 )
whatafishIAM posts small blind [$1]
SebasAKAllIn posts big blind [$2]
Calfus posts big blind [$2]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TEH_POKERRRZ [ 6d, 8d ]
Calfus checks
TEH_POKERRRZ raises [$6]
whatafishIAM folds
SebasAKAllIn folds
Calfus calls [$4]
** Dealing flop ** [ 9c, 2h, Ks ]
Calfus bets [$2]
TEH_POKERRRZ raises [$10]
Calfus folds
** Summary **
TEH_POKERRRZ collected [ $18.05 ]

Additionally, SB is always followed by regular BB in hh so it's also clear who posts BB out of turn.

[netsrak]

Please send us the original handhistory with link to this thread to support@holdemmanager.com and we take a look at it.

[Koxx]

done