4B to resteal vs 4B ranges stats

[Dublimax]

Hi there,

I have noticed that there are some differences between 4B ranges and the 4B ranges calculated from the Steal stats and the raise_vs_3b.Position.total(or Blinds).

Let me give you an example from my DB:

For CO:
CO Steal:26%
4B to Resteal (Raise_vs_3b.Co.IP): 30%
4B range.CO:4.7%

Where when we calculate the 4B range( 0.26*0.3) we get 7.8% which is very different from 4.7%

In fact when we calculate the 4B ranges we should get a number slightly smaller than the 4B ranges because the 4B ranges also takes into account the cold 4B.

Thanks

[Sarek]

HM version?
Have you tried this? http://www.holdemmanager.com/Downloa...te_1.12.04.exe

[Dublimax]

v 1.12.03.b
I updated it 2 days ago.
What's new in the 1.12.04 that would fix it?

Thanks

[Dublimax]

I updated to 1.12.04 and same problem

[olliepower]

Please see this FAQ http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questio...�t+Work and answer any questions that apply to you so we can narrow down what the issue is

[Dublimax]

My HUD is working fine.
Some stats don't add up. So what I would like you to do is check that these stats are correct on your side.
They don't when I look at a hand in the replayer so it has nothing to do with poker clients etc...
But let me answer the questions anyways:

What version of Holdem Manager are you using?
1.12.04
What poker site are you playing on and does the problem occur on more than one site?
Titan - iPoker. But again I have this issue in the replayer so nothign to do with the poker client
Which type of game(s) are you playing? (NL, FL, Omaha, SnGs, MTT)
NL cash games
Have you clicked on the Start Auto Import button?
yes
Often times, it is one setting or option that's not correct in your poker client. Please see our Detailed FAQs on configuring Holdem Manager to work with poker sites to make sure your poker site is saving Hand History files.
It does work
Check to see if the hand histories are showing up in the folder that you configured in HM to auto import from.
If you think the hands are importing the please go to the reports TAB, select your username and run a report with all filters off to confirm they have imported.
hands are imported fine.
If the hand histories show up in the auto import folders, but they're not importing into the database, please create a new database and try importing some hands to test if it's a corrupt database. http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questio...elete+Database

Have you tried the Table Finder and did it work? http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questio...r+to+Show+HUD+
I havent tried that but my HUD is working
If you open the hand history files, are they written in English?
yes
Please attach your holdemmanager.config file from C:\Program Files\RVG Software\Holdem Manager\Config folder. It may be just called holdemmanager if youve extenstions turned off.

[Dublimax]

My HUD is working fine.
Some stats don't add up. So what I would like you to do is check that these stats are correct on your side.
They don't when I look at a hand in the replayer so it has nothing to do with poker clients etc...
But let me answer the questions anyways:

What version of Holdem Manager are you using?
1.12.04
What poker site are you playing on and does the problem occur on more than one site?
Titan - iPoker. But again I have this issue in the replayer so nothign to do with the poker client
Which type of game(s) are you playing? (NL, FL, Omaha, SnGs, MTT)
NL cash games
Have you clicked on the Start Auto Import button?
yes
Often times, it is one setting or option that's not correct in your poker client. Please see our Detailed FAQs on configuring Holdem Manager to work with poker sites to make sure your poker site is saving Hand History files.
It does work
Check to see if the hand histories are showing up in the folder that you configured in HM to auto import from.
If you think the hands are importing the please go to the reports TAB, select your username and run a report with all filters off to confirm they have imported.
hands are imported fine.
If the hand histories show up in the auto import folders, but they're not importing into the database, please create a new database and try importing some hands to test if it's a corrupt database. http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questio...elete+Database

Have you tried the Table Finder and did it work? http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questio...r+to+Show+HUD+
I havent tried that but my HUD is working
If you open the hand history files, are they written in English?
yes
Please attach your holdemmanager.config file from C:\Program Files\RVG Software\Holdem Manager\Config folder. It may be just called holdemmanager if youve extenstions turned off.

[Patvs]

Because 4B ranges also takes into account the cold 4B, the sample sizes (in #hands) of both stats are different.

[Dublimax]

Because 4B ranges also takes into account the cold 4B, the sample sizes (in #hands) of both stats are different.

ohhh so because we almost never cold 4B then the range drop significantly since we have the possibility to 4B very often.

Ok that makes sense now. Thanks