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Old 02-09-2010, 12:16 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 02-09-2010, 01:29 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I hope no one is in a Rush for this.
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:19 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Quote from Roy regarding rake calculations

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There are two types, average contributed and weight contributed. Average uses all the players that VPIP’ed and divides the rake evenly between them while weighted divides the rake based on how much each person contributed towards the pot. So if player X put in 40% of the pot then he gets 40% of the rake
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So it took a week and half to get a response that told me which sites use each method. Now after 2 months, I'm given the definition of each method.

All I want is the FORMULA.

At this point, it seems like it might be easier to get Coca-Cola's secret recipe.
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Old 02-10-2010, 01:26 AM   #15 (permalink)
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So it took a week and half to get a response that told me which sites use each method. Now after 2 months, I'm given the definition of each method.

All I want is the FORMULA.

At this point, it seems like it might be easier to get Coca-Cola's secret recipe.
Not sure what the issue is. The Formulas looks clear to me and I'm no math wizard. Even made a FAQ for future reference. FAQ - Hold'em Manager Poker Tracking Software :: How is Rake Calculated?

This response is straight from Roy after seeing your exact post that Fozzy quoted above. What is it you're looking for? You say all you want is the formula so I don't understand because he provided that. Not all of us are math wizards but we're here to help as best as we can.

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Old 02-10-2010, 01:35 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I'm going to take a stab in the dark here and suggest that the request for a 'forumla' means that posters are seeking the data field names. Roy posted the cash game database schema a long time ago and there's a chance some of the field names have changed.

Am I on the right track?

Edit: This is me trying really hard to be diplomatic.

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Old 02-10-2010, 01:46 AM   #17 (permalink)
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If I wrote a custom stat for determing rake paid using the dealt method it would be

pokerhands.rakeamount/pokerhands.numberofplayers

since everyone that gets dealt cards gets an equal share.

Under the average contributed method it would be

rake amount / number of players that VPIP

There is a rakeamount stat but there isn't a stat (that I can find) for the number of players that VPIP so HEM must be using some kind of formula to figure that number out.

I wanted the formula HEM uses to figure that number out so that I can write custom stat.
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I'm playing on full tilt and have a suspicion that my contributed rake is much higher than my dealt, but I want the stats to back it up before I decide to move to a new site. From the sticky, I saw that rake is:




But based on what I read in this thread, ph.RakeAmount is either dealt or contributed based on what site you play at so using a custom stat based on that wouldn't be very useful if I wanted to display both.

My initial thought would be to somehow set the "site" variable for fulltilt to contributed and have hem recalculate everything, but I'm not sure if I'd have access to that variable.

Is there a good way to set it up so I can have two columns side by side, one for dealt, one for contributed so I can compare?
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There is Dealt Rake i.e divided between anyone dealt cards and also contributed rake has two types, average contributed and weight contributed. Average uses all the players that VPIP’ed and divides the rake evenly between them while weighted divides the rake based on how much each person contributed towards the pot. So if player X put in 40% of the pot then he gets 40% of the rake.

If you find out the formula they use let us know if its not one of those then let us know and well update it. there variable is basically the siteID in the database, id siteID= x then rake = contributed so youd need to change the siteID for all your hands which wouldnt be a wise idea, currently we calculate the rake based on the site and dont have the option to add more than 1 type of rake stat but Feel free to make your suggestions here:
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