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    i just updated to beta version .7832

    and EV calculation is worng

    i played this hand :


    ***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Poker Stars)
    €2.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, July 28, 02:42:38 ET 2013
    Table Zech III (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Seat 1: Player1 ( €3.40 EUR ) - VPIP: 51, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 0,8, Hands: 175
    Seat 2: Player2 ( €2.57 EUR ) - VPIP: 58, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 0,2, Hands: 12
    Seat 3: Player3 ( €1.47 EUR ) - VPIP: 80, PFR: 40, 3B: 0, AF: 7,0, Hands: 10
    Seat 4: Hero ( €1.91 EUR ) - VPIP: 22, PFR: 15, 3B: 5, AF: 3,4, Hands: 144435
    Seat 5: Player5 ( €2.15 EUR ) - VPIP: 67, PFR: 67, 3B: 100, AF: 4,0, Hands: 3
    Seat 6: Player6 ( €0.45 EUR ) - VPIP: 50, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 5,0, Hands: 10
    Hero posts small blind [€0.01 EUR].
    Player5 posts big blind [€0.02 EUR].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to Hero [ Ad Kd ]
    Player6 calls [€0.02 EUR]
    Player1 folds
    Player2 calls [€0.02 EUR]
    Player3 raises [€0.06 EUR]
    Hero calls [€0.05 EUR]
    Player5 raises [€0.08 EUR]
    Player6 folds
    Player2 calls [€0.08 EUR]
    Player3 calls [€0.04 EUR]
    Hero calls [€0.04 EUR]
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, 6s, 7c ]
    Hero checks
    Player5 bets [€0.20 EUR]
    Player2 calls [€0.20 EUR]
    Player3 folds
    Hero raises [€1.81 EUR]
    Player5 calls [€1.61 EUR]
    Player2 calls [€1.61 EUR]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ]
    Player5 bets [€0.24 EUR]
    Player2 calls [€0.24 EUR]
    ** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]
    Player5 shows [Js, As ]
    Player2 shows [Jc, 9c ]
    Player2 wins €0.46 EUR from main pot
    Hero shows [Ad, Kd ]
    Player2 wins €5.53 EUR from main pot


    i went allin on the flop when i was 48% with 3 players

    hm2 says 0 Ev diff


    thankyou

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    This is to be expected if everyone else wasn't all in on the same street.

    Watch this video and read the FAQ - http://faq.holdemmanager.com/questions/120/EV+Explained

    Some important things to note about EV:

    - All-in EV is only calculated based on hands which were all in before the river since equity on the river will always be 0% or 100%. Hence, the river is irrelevant.
    - If you get 95% of your stack in on the turn and the final 5% in on the river, then it takes your equity on the street you got all in on.

    - Note: EV is calculated at the point in which everyone is all-in. Calculating it any other way would be biased since we don't know what hands people might have folded.
    - Example: You have JJ VS two other players with larger stacks with AK and QQ. You get all in, the other players call. Flop is AK5 and QQ folds, is your pre-flop EV 55% (pair VS AK) or 20% (JJ VS QQ and AK)? We can't know because we don't know what people fold.

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    ok thankyou i understand

    an idea for he developers : the 2 opponents went to showdown so i know i was 48 % ! if hm2 in the future can understand that can be

    bye

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    Currently, it will not show, it has been widely discussed, but there is no good option on how to handle it.
    Regards udbrky (Chris)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomale72 View Post
    ok thankyou i understand

    an idea for he developers : the 2 opponents went to showdown so i know i was 48 % ! if hm2 in the future can understand that can be

    bye



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